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Ensign
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2
So I've been using my Vesta ( Aventine Tactical Variant and loving it I might add.

But I always come about 2nd or 3rd place in that fleet action with my Aventine, I have it set up as Full aux cannons IE Aux dps setup.

I got this crazy thought to try out my moth balled galaxy Retrofit, so I pulled it out of space dock loaded as a beam boat with a quantum in the front and a Tricobalt in the back the rest all dual beams in front and single beams on the back.

Only two tact abilities Beam Overload and High yield Torpedo.

So yea I Came first in the fleet action, i'm not sure if its based on dps but I couldn't believe it. (I joking said to myself I will make a touph galaxy class when I was fitting it out lol)

Just thought id share this weird experience as I know the Galaxy Retrofit is pretty much as weak as a Teir 5 ship gets.
Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 558
# 2
04-30-2013, 05:14 AM
Congrats on coming in 1st.

Your the third captain that I have read about to do so with this ship!

That being said, I have seen a few Dreadnoughts and retrofits do well even in PVP. One in particular is just vicious in Ker'rat. You can check some of the videos on YouTube for further inspiration
"The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa (2006)
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 945
# 3
04-30-2013, 05:17 AM
While DPS plays a factor, other factors like destroying tholians/fragments/any heals you use on other people and yourself all factor into who wins

For the CE event atleast ^^
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Ensign
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2
# 4
04-30-2013, 05:35 AM
Yea I was pretty impressed with myself to be honest, I still cant believe it.

This experience makes me want to trade my Vesta in for say an Tactical Oddessy or a much tougher cruiser.

not sure..........
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 857
# 5
04-30-2013, 05:45 AM
i got 1st twice with my gal x, so no big deal, the reason behind this i think is that some player don't master their escort, there is also some instance where you only play with cruiser and some are not build for dps
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,173
# 6
04-30-2013, 06:21 AM
The thing is, we really don't know *what* exactly is counted towards the score outside of DPS for this event. There is anecdotal evidence that healing gives good points, but there is no evidence/documentation that any additional consideration is given to killing shards/Tholians outside of the DPS applied.

Given that the legacy Fleet actions are pretty much ENTIRELY have their scores based on DPS/damage (BtP,SB24, Gorn Invasion, Big Dig, etc) and Cryptic's proven record at being kings of the copypasta, it follows that CE would be no different.

As for the OP - congrats! You are at a disadvantage in that ship, sadly. Perhaps you had crappy teammates?
Commander
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 332
# 7
04-30-2013, 11:33 AM
I've only come in first once with my tactical escort (heavy escort carrier), but I get first about 90% of the time with my engineer atrox carrier.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 406
# 8
04-30-2013, 11:36 AM
I also came in first yesterday in a Gal-R. It was mostly a test to see if I could.

I was healing my team constantly. Every time I saw someone's shields start to go down I'd slip them a TT, or a TSS2, or an ES. If I saw their hull start to drop, I'd give them an A2SIF, an HE, or an ET.

Different from my usual escort play, but actually quite fun.
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Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 350
# 9
04-30-2013, 12:19 PM
the CE event favors healing ships like the Galaxy R and Ambassador R i fought CE in a Fleet Defiant and did not even place and that thing can bruise things badly but my Ambassador R on another char has bare minimum DPS unless i boost the systems but i get consistent 1st place by just healing things and firing on the CE so this event is different its good to have DPS but it is not the king in this mission healing is.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,233
# 10
04-30-2013, 12:48 PM
Actually over 140 CE runs over 10 types of captain and ship combinations, I think the Mirror Vo'Quv might actually be the best ship for the mission, better than even the Recluse or Kar'fi. Load it with 4 beam arrays, the KCB, and a Hargh'peng (yes really), pop FAW once per Tholian wave to ensure you get points for 'helping' to kill them, and otherwise focus on the CE. With a Gravity Well, the 'Peng damages not only the CE but also any shards you snare when it explodes, the extra engineering stations let you heal your teammates just shy of being a full cruiser, and your BoPs have both THY and the durability to survive in a FAW-rich environment. Its funny how things can work out to make 'lesser' ships shine sometimes.
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