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# 21
04-30-2013, 08:40 PM
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Honestly the only reason I can see the Scimitar being in the lockbox.
Its a faction ship, moment it goes Lock Box they are admitting the Romulans are not a faction or that faction ships can get lock box.

Also its absurd to go about the Cascading Biogenic Pulse since it have a huge startup time, make the ship immobile, its telegraphs it area of attack and of course, it can always be toned down to be in line with other "power" like the Phaser Lance or Isometric Charge.

Its only a issue for NPCs that likely will just not evade it on purpose but that goes both ways, if they leave the AoE its not as if you could actually move.
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# 22
04-30-2013, 08:56 PM
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Its a faction ship, moment it goes Lock Box they are admitting the Romulans are not a faction or that faction ships can get lock box.

Also its absurd to go about the Cascading Biogenic Pulse since it have a huge startup time, make the ship immobile, its telegraphs it area of attack and of course, it can always be toned down to be in line with other "power" like the Phaser Lance or Isometric Charge.

Its only a issue for NPCs that likely will just not evade it on purpose but that goes both ways, if they leave the AoE its not as if you could actually move.

The lockbox is a faction lockbox. And I think the Romulans stopped being a faction the moment it was decided that they would ally with either the Feds or the KDF. Also, I dont think the Romulan Republic has been seen operating Scimitars.

The difference between the NPC and PC versons of the phaser lance/isometric charge is that the NPC versions arent one shot kills... the thalaron weapon is. I dont see a weapon of that magnitude (or even half that magnitude) being available on the CStore at all.
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# 23
04-30-2013, 09:43 PM
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Also, I dont think the Romulan Republic has been seen operating Scimitars.
The azure nebula you are rescuing ships for the romulan republic. Those scimitars are the romulan republic's scimitars.

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The difference between the NPC and PC versons of the phaser lance/isometric charge is that the NPC versions arent one shot kills... the thalaron weapon is. I dont see a weapon of that magnitude (or even half that magnitude) being available on the CStore at all.
Umm Cryptic would do it. The wing cannon overload console is a 1 shot and hits multiple targets. It also depends on the players you are facing but I've alpha'd the wing cannon overload on the kumari and killed 2 players with one hit. Overload can get 30k-121k damage the 121k was crit. And the Tholaron blast in Khitomer killed me with a 108k damage. So the Wing cannon overload is stronger than tholaron blast and it doesn't lock you into not moving. Though you can't use buffs while it is charging which is why you pre buff then use it.

Stahl has said the scimitar ship is reserved for romulan faction so I doubt it is in lockbox. Plus the missions we've seen have only been 1-21 content for Romulan faction and later content that gets farther along in the timeline we may have story missions that show scimitars in direct use. Also the fleet reinforcements from embassy it allows you to summon a romulan republic scimitar to help in fleet actions.

You can usually escape the tholaron blast except when it instant fires instead of regular charging up it's supposed to do. Which cryptic will most likely make sure player version doesn't do that. So long charge up time where you can't use any buffs and move, and you have 0 defense from not moving. Escorts can run around and shoot ya in the butt. Plus npc versions of the ship have poor turn rate and so Scimitar will probably be 2 turn rate. Which will require a ton of rcs consoles.

You'd be more likely to kill another player with the wing cannon overload console than the tholaron blast.
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# 24
04-30-2013, 09:47 PM
If they do a Tal Shiar lockbox really the alien ships or an exclusive tal shiar ship like that Narada looking one will be there.

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# 25
04-30-2013, 09:57 PM
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I doubt that, personally. Figure the Scimitar ends up a 3pack ala Ody/Bort. They wouldn't want to give the Scim to Feds/KDF....
And what would be the diff?

Romulans ally with either FED or KDF, they open lockbox, boom, instant Scimitar.

The main difference, is that there's a possibility of an actual FED or KDF Captain, piloting a Scimitar, rather than a Romulan or Reman Captain.

But no, I do not believe the Scimitar will be a lockbox ship. All lockbox ships so far, have been either faction neutral, or have a faction-specific equivalent depending on who opens the box (Temporal ships).
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# 26
04-30-2013, 10:04 PM
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Romulans ally with either FED or KDF, they open lockbox, boom, instant Scimitar.

The main difference, is that there's a possibility of an actual FED or KDF Captain, piloting a Scimitar, rather than a Romulan or Reman Captain.
CBS said no to letting feds and kdf pilot romulan ships, but yes with romulans piloting their allies's ships. So no if feds and kdf were going to get access they would've, but they didn't so no.

The scimitar will be a 3 pack for romulan faction only.

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But no, I do not believe the Scimitar will be a lockbox ship. All lockbox ships so far, have been either faction neutral, or have a faction-specific equivalent depending on who opens the box (Temporal ships).
Yeah faction neutral so if there is a talshiar lockbox it isn't part of the romulan republic faction or fed faction or kdf faction. So technically a Talshiar box could happen if it gives us Tal Shiar only ships or their allies the elachi. Those ships look nice. Still want that Tal Shiar ship from the Mind Game mission (^_^)
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# 27
04-30-2013, 10:06 PM
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But no, I do not believe the Scimitar will be a lockbox ship. All lockbox ships so far, have been either faction neutral, or have a faction-specific equivalent depending on who opens the box (Temporal ships).
And prior to the temporal ships all non-mirror ships were neutral, and a fair number of people were making virtually the same argument for the Wells not being in those.

It would be interesting if the Scimitar dropped for all factions, but only equip-able on Romulans. Would be interesting to see trades on those, or perhaps would push people to roll a Romulan anyway.
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# 28
05-01-2013, 06:23 AM
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The lockbox is a faction lockbox.
No, even the Temporal Lock Box was not a faction Lock Box.
We never had a D'deridex on a lock box despite the many requests because it would be a faction ship put on a lock box.

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And I think the Romulans stopped being a faction the moment it was decided that they would ally with either the Feds or the KDF.
I dont want to go into that because we have gone into that before.

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Also, I dont think the Romulan Republic has been seen operating Scimitars.
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The difference between the NPC and PC versons of the phaser lance/isometric charge is that the NPC versions arent one shot kills... the thalaron weapon is. I dont see a weapon of that magnitude (or even half that magnitude) being available on the CStore at all.
Are you kidding me? I was oneshooted by a isometric charge once ... sure a NPC one but that happens, there is little defense because they dont telegraph their attack .

The Cascading Biogenic Pulse does, also damage can be reduced compared with the NPC version.
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# 29
05-01-2013, 07:22 AM
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# 30
05-01-2013, 07:25 AM
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Now first off, the bigger thing thats missing is more Romulan Science ships, that's a given and there are other topics about that, but another thing thats missing is a true Romulan carrier.

I doubt it's missing completely, and there are most likely plans to put one in the C-store.

I'm sure it's not lost on Cryptic (they have their metrics, afterall) that this is a popular ship class type, and rather than offer it for free they can generate solid sales out of such a C-store launch.

They'd be negligent not to capitalize on that, as adeptly as they have capitalized on it Fed side.

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