Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
# 2111
05-04-2013, 08:53 PM
STF, back several months or a year ago getting the optionals seemed impossible for me(I was a damn n00by at the time) but time passed, and several thousands of hours in stf later I can value my level to say I'm somekind of veteran.

ISE now is for me the easier optional objective to get as everybody already knows how to handle things and so I believed there was no way to lose this optional ever again....god I was sooo wrong.

This was no late than yesterday the drama happened, the ISE started smoothly and the tac cube went down quickly as usual but when it comes to the usual strategy they began to split up in each direction towards the two transformers: I was mostly surprised but the best is when they don't shoot the generators, prefer to shoot the spheres or the transformers without caring about the generators first.

If I could, I may would've taken the aggro or something but...Damnit Jim, I'm a Bird of Prey not a Dreadnought !

All my bad experiences in STF are mostly of the same level so I chose this one
Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 4
# 2112
05-05-2013, 11:04 AM
A week or two ago I had an awful experience in the Khitomer Vortex (not even Elite!)

Donatra spawns, I cannot remember if we were still on for the optional or not, we go in for the kill.
Some guy in a Cruiser charges in and ejects warp plasma - Donatra cloaks.

I thought it may have been a mistake so I don't say anything but then a little while later, he flies in and sends in boarding parties!

Everyone starts talking to him through team chat but he keeps pulling the same two dumb moves one after the other.

Not a word from him.

It seemed pretty likely that he was some kind of bot.

The four other members of the team decided to park up and watch him for a while.
Flying around repeating the same two moves over and over again, forcing Donatra to cloak ever few seconds. Then we reported him and quit the match.

I've been in quite a few STFs but that was the first time I came up against something so obviously automated.
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 247
# 2113 See Me, Heal Me
05-05-2013, 11:46 AM
The last few post reminded me of one that I kinda forgot about.

I don't remember which instance, it was just an STF.

There was some guy with half a dozen damages to his ship.

He was a VA.

We went boom a couple times, that was when I noticed the damage.

I said, 'Hey dude (name) heal your ship.'

He said 'How do I do that?'

Typical Instant Admiral.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 205
# 2114
05-05-2013, 03:22 PM
That happened to me the first time I did an ESTF. I knew about damage, but I forgot to bring the items along, so by the end, I'd accrued quite an impressive string of injuries.
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 300
# 2115
05-05-2013, 10:35 PM
my experiences arent as bad as some I've seen here. Today in KASE we had a farmer....without his dps took us 40 min to finish...that was annoying. Worst has to be a CSE i ws in and we got blown away by raptors. The other 4 guys died and i tried to tank the mob they accumulated around Kang in my raptor. General annoyance has to be ISE these days.....transformers getting healed at 2%.....carriers throwing grav well on the transformer, ignoring the mob
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 247
# 2116
05-06-2013, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by greendragon527 View Post
General annoyance has to be ISE these days.....transformers getting healed at 2%.....carriers throwing grav well on the transformer, ignoring the mob
The problem with ISN and ISE is people don't understand that they need to leave the spheres alone and go after the Nanite spheres and probes.

In ISN what I usually do if after I kill two or three of the transformers I'll rush back towards and start on the nanites. This normally works but then I often look back and see all four of the other ships chasing the spheres all over the place while ignoring the final small transformers or the big transformer. Trying to tell them to kill the transformer or forget the regualr spheres until the transformer is dead through chat is normally futile. So I end up rushing back to the transformer and trying to kill it before the next group of nanites spawn.

In ISE someone inevitably kills one of the probes early so I weigh the DPS of the others against mine and decide whether to go after probes or kill the transformer. I can usually have the transformer dead before the nanites arive.

One time I got accused by a noobe of farming because one guys was working on the transformer, I was waiting for the next group of nanites and three were off two dozen K away working on a regular sphere. We won the optional but he was convinced we needed to kill the regular spheres before anything else. I told him to stop chasing the regular sphere and help with the transformer but he called me a noobe and continued. If I remember right, I got some extra marks and a cople of the borg loot things out of it.

Last edited by jake81499; 05-06-2013 at 08:02 AM.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
# 2117
05-07-2013, 01:30 AM
Best way in ISE is to put gens at 10-15%, and making sure all gens can be destroyed in a 10sec delay(sometimes, a gen blows up too early it happens if you miscalculate your damage x) )

After that, I put all my tac debuffs on the transformer and he goes down in like 10sec while the nanites are still half way to reach it: always effective IF all guys are together
Commander
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# 2118
05-08-2013, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lekero View Post
Best way in ISE is to put gens at 10-15%, and making sure all gens can be destroyed in a 10sec delay(sometimes, a gen blows up too early it happens if you miscalculate your damage x) )

After that, I put all my tac debuffs on the transformer and he goes down in like 10sec while the nanites are still half way to reach it: always effective IF all guys are together
Man not only have I seen people blow it early, I've seen people use Gravity Well on the transformer after, use it on the nanites after they're already all healing the transformer, use it on the spheres after the optional is already blown. (-.-')
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 137
# 2119
05-08-2013, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by greendragon527 View Post
Man not only have I seen people blow it early, I've seen people use Gravity Well on the transformer after, use it on the nanites after they're already all healing the transformer, use it on the spheres after the optional is already blown. (-.-')
Grav well + Sensor Scan adds up to a lot of extra damage on the transformer and brings it down faster, but only if the spheres aren't on their way. Better to stop them with warp plasma anyway, as that'll last longer.

I love using Grav well + Sensor Scan + Isometric on the transformer and the two spheres that warp in, causing a nice little ball of damage along with the general DPS needed to kill the transformer.
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# 2120
05-08-2013, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by greendragon527 View Post
Man not only have I seen people blow it early, I've seen people use Gravity Well on the transformer after, use it on the nanites after they're already all healing the transformer, use it on the spheres after the optional is already blown. (-.-')
It's just another common problem where nanites heal transformers. In fact it's a common problem in all STF's. If you're killing the Carrier in Cure, there is always someone in there pushing it all over the place, out of range of weapons someone else set up or out of range of some cruiser setting 8K away. If people would learn how to use the push and pull weapons then they might be helpful. But they just install them and go to town.

I saw someone in a Cure Normal yesterday doing just that. Pushing the Carrier away from everyone else so they had to keep chasing to keep up with it. No biggy to me, I'm in an Escort so I stay in motion anyhow.

Someone did yell in chat, 'STOP PUSHING THE CARRIER!'

It didn't help.

I've also seen people push nanite probes right into the transformer!
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