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# 71
05-09-2013, 03:34 PM
Those looks great. I'm looking forward to hitting lv 50 and getting my D. Warbird. I'm glad they fixed the tactical consul and Boff slots. Looks lot better and ready for action. I see $ spent for me as I will be after the Mogi as well.
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# 72
05-09-2013, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by theodrim View Post
They're called "RCS consoles" and "combat impulse engines"; "evasive maneuvers", "auxiliary to inertial dampeners", "emergency power to engines", and "attack pattern omega"; and "battle cloak". After the buff to turn rate buffs for low turn rate ships, if you have a problem keeping a large warbird on-target it's your own fault.
What do Combat Impulse Engines have to do with turn rates? Now had you said "[Turn] Tags on Impulse Engines", then that would have made sense.

Also, I didn't know Battle Cloak improved turn rate, is that something new?


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# 73
05-09-2013, 03:50 PM
I wish there was a scimitar out there but other than that i'll probally going with just buying the d'deridix, mogai, and t'varo for T5...

I just know after a few months those lower ships consoles will be in lockboxes and be nerfed so badly I wouldn't use them anyways.

Edit: As far as turn rate with battle cloak some people are confusing 2 seperate issues/mechanics. When you are cloaked it increases you defense up to around 120% from the normal 40-60^ defense you normally have. As far as turning bonus thats probally someone just trolling.
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# 74
05-09-2013, 03:53 PM
I thought the D'deridex was going to have Fleet Ambassador stats
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# 75
05-09-2013, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by captainbmoney View Post
I thought the D'deridex was going to have Fleet Ambassador stats
Relax, the new stats are even better.
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# 76
05-09-2013, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lordhavelock View Post
What do Combat Impulse Engines have to do with turn rates? Now had you said "[Turn] Tags on Impulse Engines", then that would have made sense.

Also, I didn't know Battle Cloak improved turn rate, is that something new?

No, the KDF BoPs always had buff in turn rate, impulse speed as well as defense, since they have Battle cloak.

Romulans also have a version of Battle cloak, and so, when cloaked, get a very notable buff in turn rate, impulse speed and defense.

It's a bit harder to notice on BoPs, since they are very agile even when not cloaked.
But the D'Deridex gets about 10 more turn rate when cloaked, so well above 15 with skills, gear.
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# 77
05-09-2013, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by theodrim View Post
They're called "RCS consoles" and "combat impulse engines"; "evasive maneuvers", "auxiliary to inertial dampeners", "emergency power to engines", and "attack pattern omega"; and "battle cloak". After the buff to turn rate buffs for low turn rate ships, if you have a problem keeping a large warbird on-target it's your own fault.
Thats not my point -but thanks for having a go at me.

The Vessel itself has no reason to have a low turn rate.


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# 78
05-10-2013, 12:30 AM
I really love the new Mogai stats!

They are great for a tactical captain looking for an ESTF ship.

Also they fit the looks of a Valdore skin perfectly, which is like a heavily armoured Mogai.


So this sells a Valdore, and a fleet Mogai (with the Valdore skin) for me!
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# 79
05-10-2013, 04:56 AM
Damm, totaly sux that the Mogai got changed, like we didnt have enuf eng focused escorts.
I am really disapointed with the new change
I'll probly hang on and wait for a scimitar release, but right now i am not interested in any sci escorts, the Dhelan visual design is really ugly and even if it would have jem'hadar bugship stats i wouldnt fly it.
Change pls the Mogai back to lt.com sci with 4 sci consoles pls.
Or at least give us a Temporal Warbird with the mogai's previous stats or with mobius set up and mogai/valdore skin option, most ppl would probly like that even if it comes in a lock box.
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# 80
05-10-2013, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by commandersalvek View Post
Thats not my point -but thanks for having a go at me.

The Vessel itself has no reason to have a low turn rate.
Yes it does, a design choice Cryptic made and have stuck to for a long time (Gecko has mentioned this on many pod casts), the more base hull HP your ship has then less turn rate it gets.


Having said that, the c-store Oddy (42k hull, 6 turn) and Bortasqu (43.5k hull, 5.5 turn) both have more hull than the D'dex T5 Retrofit (40.5k hull) but the D'Dex only gets the same turn rate as the bortasqu.

So, I can see a case for 6.5 turn rate for the T5 D'Dex's, but no more, otherwise they need to shave hull hp off to compensate, which I don't think should happen, given it's supposed to be such a massive ship.
39k star cruiser types have 7 turn. So 6.5 turn would be a good place to slot it in.


Unless, they're calculating the turn spec off the fleet variant (44.5k hull) in which case the 5.5 turn is looking rather generous.
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