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# 51
05-17-2013, 05:22 AM
Bortas is not a carrier(it would be a wonderful ship if it had even a single hanger though), and the tactical variant has a decloaking alpha strike potential that only a few other ships can match when armed with DHCs(at least before Romulans come onto the scene).
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# 52
05-17-2013, 05:31 AM
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Were you using RCS consoles? If so how many and what was the Mk/rarity? How many ranks in impulse thrusters skill, warp core potential, warp core efficiency, and engine performance do you have? What kind of engines were you using? What power level were your engines at?

You need to provide more information so we know if it is the fault of the ship, or the fault of the pilot and not using proper gear/spec/settings.
The faults in the game mechanics running NPC opponents. I've cloaked, gone outside the 10km limit and literally watched NPC ships continue to shoot me (and kill me cuz the shields are down) after I should be untargetable and out of range.

It happens so often I refuse to bother using cloak at all unless it's on a mission with objectives I can stealth to avoid combat.
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# 53
05-17-2013, 05:31 AM
Honestly the biggest problem is the D'Deridex is the iconic Romulan ship.
Its shown to be tougher, slower and much more agile then the Galaxy and probably better armed to boot. (The Galaxy is not a warship)

Honestly most people should wait for the Scimitar with its fighter bays, firing everything while cloaked and utterly over powered double shields.

People want a viable D'Deridex that can be used well in pvp as a Battlecruiser. With its current turn rate its just not that useful of a ship.
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# 54
05-17-2013, 05:37 AM
ppl do this wrong when come to battlecruiser or cruiser instead of asking for faster turning ship lets face it BIG ships do not turn like a BoP or a defiant so instead of asking for that lets ask to make the ships more tanky
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# 55
05-17-2013, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by daan2006 View Post
ppl do this wrong when come to battlecruiser or cruiser instead of asking for faster turning ship lets face it BIG ships do not turn like a BoP or a defiant so instead of asking for that lets ask to make the ships more tanky
Nobody is asking for it to turn like a BoP or a defiant. Surely there has to be some kind of middle ground between 5.5 and 23? Maybe say 9-10 like we have been asking for?

Another point is take a look at some of the escorts in this game compared to cruisers size wise. A fleet patrol is almost as big as say a Cheyenne, but for some reason it has a much higher turn rate. The Breen ship is as big as many fed cruisers and can turn much better. Your point is not invalid.

Asking for ships to be more tanky? For one thing, ships are plenty tanky as it is. Second, making a cruiser more tanky just further exacerbates the problem of them being less useful in pvp.

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# 56
05-17-2013, 07:02 AM
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Nobody is asking for it to turn like a BoP or a defiant. Surely there has to be some kind of middle ground between 5.5 and 23? Maybe say 9-10 like we have been asking for?
Doing so would require a complete turn rate rebalance for all Federation cruisers. Thusly, it's not going to happen.
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# 57
05-17-2013, 07:17 AM
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The faults in the game mechanics running NPC opponents. I've cloaked, gone outside the 10km limit and literally watched NPC ships continue to shoot me (and kill me cuz the shields are down) after I should be untargetable and out of range.

It happens so often I refuse to bother using cloak at all unless it's on a mission with objectives I can stealth to avoid combat.
That would be becasue you cloaked while they were still firing at you. you should have cloaked when you were outside their firing range and waited till they went though their weapons cycle since any weapon fired before you cloak will still get you.

That's the problem some people forget with battle cloak, you can't just cloak while being fired on.


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# 58
05-17-2013, 07:20 AM
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That would be becasue you cloaked while they were still firing at you. you should have cloaked when you were outside their firing range and waited till they went though their weapons cycle since any weapon fired before you cloak will still get you.

That's the problem some people forget with battle cloak, you can't just cloak while being fired on.
with romulan 99% of the time due to the singularity core level higher it is easy you are to find
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# 59
05-17-2013, 07:37 AM
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That's the problem some people forget with battle cloak, you can't just cloak while being fired on.
Well you can, it's just stupid and suicidal. But that's how you know who the good pilots are.
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# 60
05-17-2013, 07:57 AM
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Well you can, it's just stupid and suicidal. But that's how you know who the good pilots are.
Definitely going to make it easier to call targets.


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