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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 61
07-29-2012, 07:10 PM
In other PWE games, we whinge about lottos, but that's because its there and imbalancing the game.

However, when given a choice of lottos, and lockboxes that drop like flies, I'd gladly take lottos simply because even while it imbalances the game with P2W it doesn't keep breaking the immersion factor while doing so!

The Reinforcement package was a great design for a lotto. I'd buy tons of it if I had the wallet size. If the Tholian lockbox was like that, an entity existing on the C-store planted there by good ol Quark, there'd be less complaints and even people defending it.
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Ensign
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# 62 gold lock boxes
08-30-2012, 10:07 AM
Where in the hell do you find gold lock boxes? I have yet to find even one since this whole lock box insanity started! By the way, why am I still an Ensign on the forums when I have been playing this *** game since beta?


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# 63
08-30-2012, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by klingot View Post
Where in the hell do you find gold lock boxes? I have yet to find even one since this whole lock box insanity started!
ALL my tholian boxes turned from green to white. Perhaps they were gold the first minute they were in-game and changed color as the rarity changed.
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# 64
08-30-2012, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by klingot View Post
Where in the hell do you find gold lock boxes? I have yet to find even one since this whole lock box insanity started! By the way, why am I still an Ensign on the forums when I have been playing this *** game since beta?

This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~syberghost
There is no Gold box... there is only common..

Your "Ensign" tag is based how many post you've made.. not how long you've been here..

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Commander
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# 65
08-31-2012, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by karmapoint View Post
I spend 20 million of EC to buy keys in the Exchange and opened 10 Tholians Lockboxes (I alread have other 5 keys).

In five minutes I get with 10 lock box:

124 Lobi Cristals in the total
2 KDF Mirror ships (Lucre, because I have 3 kdf and 3 fed toons)
25,000 fleet credits bonus pool x2
5,000 fleet credits bonus pool x1
mini-cadre pack of quadrant gama x5

Ok, I have a lot of luck to get two KDF mirror ships in a roll, but after spending this amout of 20 million of EC to buy keys, I have to buy more in the exchange (and someone buy with the RL money to sell here) or take Zen to buy something.

I really hate the entire lockbox thing and hated the cardassian and the ferengi, but I have to admit: The rewards is good enough to make the spend money for some time.

You really *must* be living in a mirror-universe, being happy spending 20mil ec on two mirror ships that go for like 350k each. Congratz! Oh no, wait.

Soon as I learned of the dismal drop-ratio of the Tholian lock boxes, I simply bought my Orb Weaver for 90mil; also way too much, of course; and I knew prices would drop soon, but I wanted one right away, and figured a ship this good could easily become my main vessel, without me having to buy many others. I was wrong: even if you're lucky to get an Orb Weaver, they're only meh. I occassionally still fly it, just for the heck of it, but I would be embarrassed to take it into an Elite STF (as I'd essentially be screwing my teammates).

So, not ony did I break Rule of Acquisition 2 ("Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to."), but found that Rule 208 applies too here, in case you were wondering whether the Tholian boxes are really worth it: "Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer."
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Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
Read more about the new Tholian Lock Box in Season 6 Dev Blog #13 and in the new FAQ. Also, purchase a Master Key from the C-Store today to unlock one and claim its contents.


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1. Have you participated in a Lock box event in STO before? And if so, which ones?
Cardassian, Ferengi

Where do you find them? I never have, I have paid over $200.00 on master keys and received no ship and barely any Lobi crystals I honestly think the whole thing is a total scam on the part or cryptic to get as much money as possible for nothing? I mean how do you justify giving random ships to people when others such as myself have been playing since beta and receive nothing in return for my loyalty? We should be able to at the very least be given a map the where to find the gold boxes or better yet be able to purchase them at the c-store, only the 900 day vets of course. I have a better idea give ten gold lock boxes and master keys as a reward to 1000 day vets how about that as a reward to loyal players? I mean are we not the reason why this game is a success? Do we not at the very least deserve that as recognition for our faith in the Star-Trek universe? Hello my friends at cryptic please let us know by giving an honest response to my query?

2. Which version of the lock box event have you enjoyed the MOST and why?
None so far sorry none

3. Which version of the lock box event have you enjoyed the LEAST and why? all so far due my above response
Both Cardassian and Ferengi so far. Ferengi is slightly worse then Cardassian one

4. What rewards did you enjoy the most in previous lock boxes none have not received anything other than some more crew?
None of the "rewards" I've gotten from any boxes so far were worth it. thats right not for $200.00 I have spent not even

5. What kind of rewards would you like to see in future lock boxes. more reason for the money spent something more for vets 900 day and up?
Since there is almost no difference between green and gold boxes they should just merge them into a single box type that only have ships (not necessarily just a super unique one, but possible also a c-store ship token or other tier 5 ship token), very rare consoles, a large quantity 10-15 doff cadre pack with special doffs, pets, costumes, unigue very rare birdge officers

6. Rate your feelings towards the following on a scale from 1 to 10, (1 being VERY NEGATIVE, 10 being VERY POSITIVE, and 5 Neutral.) 1 some of my rewards vanished from my bank my party popper for one as an example?

General:

-Holiday Giftbox 1 (because I wasn't around for it and they haven't released some of the items)yes
-Cardassian Lock Box 4
-Ferengi Lock Box 4
-Lobi Crystals 1
-"Gold" Lock Box 1 (ALL gold boxes should be tradeable)
-Master Keys 2 should be free to vets that is vets since beta!

Rewards:
ALL rewards should be tradeable!!yes
-Ships 10 should able to be purchased by 900 day plus vets at the c-store
-Consoles 8 (only if very rare unique consoles)
-"Toys" (Non-stat oriented playthings like party-poppers) 1
-Unique Duty Officers/Bridge Officers 8
-Costumes 5 (low because of lobi crystal BS)
-Pets 2 (should be combat pets only)
-Unique Consumables 1 (these shouldn't ever be in a box or should be in a "super budget box" yes!


7. What are your feelings on the Lobi Crystal store? What do you like about it, and how do you think it could be improved? give us a way to mine them! or a map to find them
The Lobi Crystals should only be a way for people to save up to buy certain box items that they aren't having any luck getting, and DEFINITELY should not be that expensive. if you open 10 boxes and get nothing but useless junk then there's something wrong with the whole thing. Having the Lobi Crystals still be a way of getting something you want for all the keys you've purchased would help eliminate some of the buyers remorse. yes definitely all of the above

8. What kind of rewards do you want to see in the Lobi Crystal store more for the money spent for the $200 i have spent already i should have more than three hundred lobi crystals don't you think?
holo-emitters with no time restrictions, very rare unique consoles (also available from the boxes), costumes, pets, toys, doff assignment materials


9. What would your Ideal lock box system look like. (Give details on acquisition of boxes, rewards, ect)
-Masterkeys are no more than 25 or 50 cp each
-There are other ways to get boxes without paying (A daily, maybe a DOFF mission)
-Lobi Crystals are in every box at a reasonable rate, but you always get another reward in addition more lobi crystals in the boxes?
-Gold box is a tradeable very rare drop, and are also recieved from completing STF (both normal and elite) along with fleet actions and events (Defera, vault, etc.). Only contain level appropriate rare or very rare rewards better boxes like gold as a reward for all replayable mission instead of common ones as a choice as a reward i mean like for the everything old is new mission to go through all that and only get to pick a common lock box or a rare console or phaser beam array what kind or choice is that?
-Odds of winning are finally posted

The mystery boxes should also be reworked to have unique rewards specific to that box and should contain:

retain, respec tokens, ships tokens, bank increase tokens, ship slot increase tokens, invent increase token, and other various items of the same type. Mystery Boxes should cost 100cp to open and contents cannot be traded or sold on the exchange except in stacks of 5. Items can however be traded to a players other character(s).

10. Is there anything important that the survey questions missed that you would like to add-in?

Maybe should add a question on if a person has not done anything with the lock boxes what is somthing that could be added or changed that would make them interested in using the lockboxes
give me more and more and more and more pleae lengthen by ten character's or more again!!!!!!!!
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 67
09-04-2012, 10:06 AM
With the exception of the freebie lockbox keys from the one mission, I havent opened any lockboxes. The odds aren't justifiable to merit going after the rewards for me.
Lieutenant
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# 68 Grrrr
09-06-2012, 12:38 AM
Sadly as someone who thought that buying keys for the lock boxes was a good idea, never again. It is quite clearly one of the greatest ripoffs going. After spending a small fortune in lock keys, i've ended up with a bunch of lobi crystals, more officer packs i can shake a stick at, and some useless mirror universe ships i can't even sell on the exchange (going for around 200k now).

After reading that PW were going to put something worthwhile into these boxes for players to get, we are after all paying real money for them, the fact remains this is a revenue earner for them and nothing more. The rewards are paltry, and it is an insult to my intelligence if PW expect me to 'pay' for any more Lobi crystals and some worthless officer packs.

Oh look, what's this, subscription cancelled. No more cash for PW, tired of being ripped off.
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# 69
09-06-2012, 12:50 AM
The only real good thing with the boxes is buying the Keys on the exchange for around 900k-1mil a couple of months after the box has been released (last time i looked yesterday they were 1.2ish) as you know when the next box hit they will spike to 1.9ish (they did after the Tholian one was released), that way you can make a lot of EC to buy anything from the box when the item prices have settled down.
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Ensign
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# 70 boxes
09-06-2012, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
Read more about the new Tholian Lock Box in Season 6 Dev Blog #13 and in the new FAQ. Also, purchase a Master Key from the C-Store today to unlock one and claim its contents.


Link to the news article.
thats great but i got 100 plus boxes and guess what every ones a mirror cruiser, but i can only have one. total bollocks lol.
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