Rihannsu
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 62
# 21
06-14-2013, 11:46 AM
The OP lost me when he actually called the most beautifully designed star ship in any IP "fugly". I can't even think about Romulans without immediately thinking first of the D'Deridex.

As for his problems, I repeat what I said in other threads: I run a DHC and beams in the back layout and have no problems keeping things within the arc. The two console bonus from the c store DDs and RCS consoles with some smart use of skills and you are fine. If you can't keep it within cannon arc the ship also does fine as a beam boat.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 22
06-14-2013, 11:55 AM
just think it should be more like the galaxy class , its the TNG Romulan battleship

Look at how much better it is then the galaxy

Count yourself lucky to have such a overpowered ship at level 30
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Ensign
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 17
# 23
06-14-2013, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by saroven View Post
As for his problems, I repeat what I said in other threads: I run a DHC and beams in the back layout and have no problems keeping things within the arc. The two console bonus from the c store DDs and RCS consoles with some smart use of skills and you are fine. If you can't keep it within cannon arc the ship also does fine as a beam boat.
Right, all you need are a couple of c-store ships for the modest sum of $30 (mind you, one of which has a Vice Admiral req.) and a few RCS consoles and you are fine... piloting a lvl 30 ship.

While I certainly agree the "fugly" comment was silly, the OP kinda does have a point: it is rather an abrupt change of pace to go from a Mogai to a DD, and it would be nice to have a little more variety of choice without having to resort to using ally ships.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 62
# 24
06-14-2013, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by happypoop View Post
Right, all you need are a couple of c-store ships for the modest sum of $30 (mind you, one of which has a Vice Admiral req.) and a few RCS consoles and you are fine... piloting a lvl 30 ship.

While I certainly agree the "fugly" comment was silly, the OP kinda does have a point: it is rather an abrupt change of pace to go from a Mogai to a DD, and it would be nice to have a little more variety of choice without having to resort to using ally ships.
Variety is the spice of life and it would be great to have more ship choices. That being said there is nothing wrong with the lvl 30 DD. I did fine without the c store console bonus on my first one and still did a DHC build with no trouble.
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 13
# 25
06-14-2013, 10:13 PM
My 30 Engie captain in his DD does just fine. My ship is fitted with 6 plasma arrays with a plasma torp up front (I am aware the plasma torp might be better as a quantum, buy the ship is named R.R.W Immolator)

It doesn't kill as fast as a tac in a DHC escort, obviously, but it kills reasonably fast and tanks like a boss. It's been a good ship for me, even though I think I could tweak my BOFF layout to get better performance.

I think I need to try an aux power to battery set-up.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 122
# 26
06-14-2013, 11:46 PM
I've personally never been a huge fan of the D'Deridex but that's just my own taste.

But due to this I decided to stick with my C-Store Valdore/Mogai mix all the way until I got my Mogai-Retrofit. Didn't have any real issues while leveling and eventually got myself a Fleet Mogai once I had the creds. It is ENTIRELY possible to skip the D'D and keep using a different ship should you so choose.
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 634
# 27
06-15-2013, 12:38 AM
I want to turn the DD retrofit into a beam boat attacker. With the Tier 2 Tholian reputation console that gives a big bonus to beam attacks, plus the plasmonic leech which is also co helped by the Nukara reputation console. The ship could possibly be a real power house on the battlefield.

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# 28
06-15-2013, 12:15 PM
Deridex is fine. The pilots who think it is an escort are not. If you don't like being forced to use it then stick with the Mogai.
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# 29
06-15-2013, 12:52 PM
With the sheer amount of RCS consoles you get for free in playing the Romulan Faction not to mention the overall weapon layout of the lvl 30 D'd where's the problem? It's only for ten lvls if you even decide to use it as other have mentioned you can simply skip it. Once you hit VA there are so many different options on how to increase the turn rate that it really isn't an issue.

When open Beta for LOR hit tribble I was one of the first to say WTF is this and that it should be changed. Once LOR launched and the Flotilla section was added to the forums I immediately started a thread about the turn rate, not just for discussions about if it should be changed or not, but also builds that didn't rely on cloaking to turn or other such nonsense, and to the credit of all the players willing to try and learn, we came up with a very wide variety of options.

More often than not the problem isn't with the game, it's with the gamer. Games have evolved, or should I say devolved into this "this is too hard." "some people think it's too hard so we have to make it easier right away". This attitude more than anything needs to be changed. I can remember playing games where it took hours, sometimes even days to get past a certain part trying all sorts of different tactics and the sense of pride and accomplishment when I finally got pasted it. Many times I would run across something similar in another game, and that prior experience helped greatly in that game as well.
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