Ensign
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 25
# 1 Tour the Galaxy Problems
02-02-2014, 03:46 AM
Tour the Galaxy is now nearly impossible to finish now. I have Borg XII engines and I can't complete it within the 15 minutes time limit. I can't imagine anyone completing it with standard warp engines.

Before 8.5, you guys gave us a full hour. Please put it back the way it was please.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 74
# 2 Mission is no longer worth it
02-02-2014, 04:11 AM
In my opinion, the Tour is no longer worth running. You only have 15 minutes to complete which is nearly impossible to run even with the best of engines. If your pc lags even a little you will lose time. Add to that that the amount of EC you get is smaller than it was, this mission is a complete bust. They really need to keep this at an hour or, for compromise sake, drop it to 30 minutes. This is only my viewpoint and I know that some will agree with this assessment.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,753
# 3
02-02-2014, 04:12 AM
I think 15 mins is too short, but i do like having a certain time limit that is a bit tight, so that people dont just stroll around. it creates a sense of urgency and having to try and maximise your time.

i think 25 would be ideal, but even 20 would help.

House of Cards - Lvl 46 Fed mission
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 26
# 4
02-02-2014, 05:05 AM
With Borg Engines and full driver coil I managed to do it with 10 seconds to spare, so not a great deal of time to make errors...

I also did it on a toon without the borg engines doing a standard 9.97 and with DI for the slipstream (had no affect on sector speed otherwise) I got no where near, i had 3 sector blocks to complete and would have needed at least another 4 minutes.

My average was about 18 min on the old tour, a more realistic time of 20min would be favourable. Even with Borg Engines and no driver coil I think it wouldnt be possible, so it would mean everyone respecing into driver coil to be able to complete it in full.

It does give about 450,000ec for a full tour so it is more than the old tour, but unfortunately not sufficient to make this worth the effort
Career Officer
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 66
# 5
02-02-2014, 06:01 AM
I am able to do the tour with 1 minute and 37 seconds left, I also use the borg mkXII engines. Start the tour while in sector space instead of club 47. It makes a great difference.
Some people use the transwarp to mission trick, but I don't do that.

Maybe you are doing something wrong?

The tour is now perfect as it is for me
Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 10
# 6
02-02-2014, 08:46 AM
I can also do it with Assimilated X engines and max Driver Coil skill on my Fed Rom in a Risian Corvette.

ETA: Just did it KDF Side with the same engines and DC skill in a Fleet B'Rel; with about 5 seconds to spare.

Last edited by boltfacelogo; 02-02-2014 at 09:16 AM.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 195
# 7
02-02-2014, 09:04 AM
i tried it last night for kicks and giggles
now the toon i used has no point in driver coil and i used the maco engine
i even pulled the 'optimized' route off the wiki

i made it to defera when the time ran out
seems lame when it docks you time for changing maps
at one point i had 10 min left, went to the next sector, 'ohh that was too much time, lets take 4 min off'

for the record, i can switch maps in less than 3 seconds, quad core cpu @ 4.2 ghz
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 246
# 8
02-02-2014, 09:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patcrow View Post
Tour the Galaxy is now nearly impossible to finish now. I have Borg XII engines and I can't complete it within the 15 minutes time limit. I can't imagine anyone completing it with standard warp engines.

Before 8.5, you guys gave us a full hour. Please put it back the way it was please.

The Tour used to be a great social gathering..now, just a grindfest for the most elite, as everyone else loses out on earning even what they had during the previous nerf.

Way to go Cryptic
Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 10
# 9
02-02-2014, 09:42 AM
Finished it on another KDF toon with about 2:30 to spare. Borg X engines and max DC skill in a Breen Heavy Raider.

ETA: And again in the Risian Corvette from above with 1:11 to spare.

Things to remember:

Plan your route.

You can start and finish anywhere; as long as you hit every point, you are good to go.

Minimize redundant travel through sectors...although I haven't found a way to completely eliminate it yet.

Stay off the edges of the maps so you aren't stopped and asked if you want to warp when you don't.

Cut corners wherever possible; slow down to do this when necessary.

Use the fastest, tightest turn escort/raider you can get - but don't sweat the tier.

Borg Assimilated X engines or above is a must; as is the highest Driver Coil skill you can manage...plus the bonuses from personal doff missions that will buff the DC skill.

Diplomacy 3 helps.

It's easier for KDF than Fed.

I haven't done it with engine or turn consoles; nor transwarp doffs...so our time can only improve with a ship tailored to this mission.

Last edited by boltfacelogo; 02-02-2014 at 10:26 AM.
Lieutenant
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 41
# 10 Tour the Galaxy
02-02-2014, 04:33 PM
I too do not like the new Tour the Galaxy criteria. I have tried a few times now without being able to complete in time. I always need almost another minute or two pending loading times. It;s irritating flying through Borg space when timing-out.

I will have to try the starting the Tour from sector space. That might be enough of a jump-start to allow me to finish.

Sad that is now seems designed to impede players from finishing now. Add another sector, lessen the reward(s), & then add a very restrictive time limit. Not all of us have a special build just for the race. I agree there should be a cooldown for limiting useage, but the 15 minute completion limit is too harsh. I've always thought of the race as a nice minigame to have fun with before getting back to the regular content, but now it's more disappointing.

Seems a few things in this 8.5 update have been punitive towards the playerbase though, more grinding chores than celebrating another year. There are more, & improved, features for everyone which shouldn't be overlooked which is good. There are also features that seems to keep getting pushed back as well.
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