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Lt. Commander
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# 41
02-04-2010, 11:14 AM
To OP: My advice? Play PvE only. That way you can have it just the way you want it.
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# 42
02-04-2010, 11:18 AM
Why? PvP in this game needs fixing, just not participating won't change anything. I PvP in every MMO I play, because usually there is some semblance of balance across factions. Sure, your class might not always be the best, but that's not that big of a deal if at least you're having fun. With STO though, unless you enjoy getting into a big pile and waiting for someone to attack you you cannot have fun if you want to play Federation.
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# 43
02-04-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rothnang
Fact is simply this: Even if you won half the matches as Federation, which you don't, PvP would still be unenjoyable.

The reason is very simple. There is no fun in being on the defensive by default. The only valid strategy the federation can persue is to all get into a big pile and wait to be attacked.

That isn't fun, even if you do win.

So not just for balances sake, but also for the sake of having a fun game cloak needs to get nerfed BAD. Federation ships need to have ways to pick fights, go on the offensive, gain the initiative, and in order to do that they have to be able to hunt down cloaked ships and be fast enough to catch them.

Ultimately it simply doesn't matter how the fight played out when the "fed ball" gets attacked. Even if they win 50% of the time, as long as that's the only thing Federation can do, PvP in this game sucks.
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I want to be better than I am at the expense of the opposing faction.
Good for you.
Lt. Commander
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# 44
02-04-2010, 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rothnang
Fact is simply this: Even if you won half the matches as Federation, which you don't, PvP would still be unenjoyable.

The reason is very simple. There is no fun in being on the defensive by default. The only valid strategy the federation can persue is to all get into a big pile and wait to be attacked.

That isn't fun, even if you do win.

So not just for balances sake, but also for the sake of having a fun game cloak needs to get nerfed BAD. Federation ships need to have ways to pick fights, go on the offensive, gain the initiative, and in order to do that they have to be able to hunt down cloaked ships and be fast enough to catch them.

Ultimately it simply doesn't matter how the fight played out when the "fed ball" gets attacked. Even if they win 50% of the time, as long as that's the only thing Federation can do, PvP in this game sucks.
This will get better when we see some more science type ships flying around everyone has ther finger on teh boom button. hell I want to play a Cruiser so I can understand.
Lt. Commander
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# 45
02-04-2010, 11:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rothnang
Why? PvP in this game needs fixing, just not participating won't change anything. I PvP in every MMO I play, because usually there is some semblance of balance across factions. Sure, your class might not always be the best, but that's not that big of a deal if at least you're having fun. With STO though, unless you enjoy getting into a big pile and waiting for someone to attack you you cannot have fun if you want to play Federation.
That's why there are two factions. You are welcome to play the other side since you firmly believe it to be overpowered. You'll be disappointed though when you actually find out . Finding out how weak you game truely is can be a bit of a shock .
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# 46
02-04-2010, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rothnang
I run at 115 aux, my sensor skills are maxed for my level, I don't detect jack.
^^^ This ... science vessels were nerfed to heck and back due to crying by klinks in beta.

Detect cloaked is a 100% broken ability and has been for a while now.
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# 47
02-04-2010, 11:48 AM
lol, dude go play klingon, you have no idea what KvK is like at all.
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# 48
02-04-2010, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghartan
^^^ This ... science vessels were nerfed to heck and back due to crying by klinks in beta.

Detect cloaked is a 100% broken ability and has been for a while now.

Absolutely untrue. I've been in enough PvP now to understand that Feds either chose not to use it , since it occupies a Boff's slot or don't use it approiately, or are not properly equipped . On plenty of occasions I've seen players get in range and never had a science vessel pick it up . Then i'll see a sci use it at a completely inappropriate time . The best time to use it is to spam it before the fight starts , not during or after the fact . So before you post crap get your facts straight.
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# 49
02-04-2010, 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghartan
^^^ This ... science vessels were nerfed to heck and back due to crying by klinks in beta.

Detect cloaked is a 100% broken ability and has been for a while now.
Nothing about cloak detection was nerfed in beta, Science ships were the best tanks and DPSers in open beta this meant no one was playing Cruisers or Escorts. They nerfed the hull and shield strength of Fed Science ships (note that most Klingon ships are still lower in hull and shields than Science ships). This made the Cruiser the dominant class for Feds as it was the tank and can DPS better than an Escort. What they failed to do was revisit the nerft to cannons that has kept the Escort as the step-child of the Federation since mid-open beta.

Charged Particle Burst is a great ability to detect cloak, try it.
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# 50
02-04-2010, 07:01 PM
Cloak detection was nerfed a LOT right before open beta started. It used to acctually be a counter to cloaking, so that a team with a science ship couldn't be ambushed just like that.
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