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# 51
03-18-2014, 06:06 PM
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It is poetic Romulan for "Avenger."
So close lol

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# 52
03-18-2014, 09:26 PM
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It is poetic Romulan for "Avenger."
Daie - my flagships have been named ChR Ra'kholh (or RRW these days) for over 20 years now.

Gawd, I'm old. When did *that* happen?
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# 53
03-19-2014, 10:17 PM
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Daie - my flagships have been named ChR Ra'kholh (or RRW these days) for over 20 years now.

Gawd, I'm old. When did *that* happen?
Does this mean I should change my ship name? I don't want to be taking anyone's idea.

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# 54
03-20-2014, 01:00 AM
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Does this mean I should change my ship name? I don't want to be taking anyone's idea.
Goodness, I wouldn't think so. I won't presume to speak for another, but in my experience, royalsovereign is a good sort, and your effort to be considerate is one which I personally view as laudable.

Besides that, I've seen a few of my own chosen ship names used by others ("Sienae" seems to be a very popular Romulan ship name, for example, as are "Memenda" and various forms of "LivianaCharvanek," like "Liviana" and "Charvanek"). When you start looking at Fed ships, there are some names that are also extremely popular (the ships in my Vulcan's personal squadron include the U.S.S. Luna, the U.S.S. Liberty, and the U.S.S. Thomas Jefferson, for example, and I've seen quite a few other ships with those names, to say nothing of "Enterprize," and various other idiosyncratic spellings of "Enterprise," since the actual name spelled correctly cannot be used by players).
Edit: And my Orion is certainly not the only Orion with a ship named "Seduction," a ship named "Seductress," a ship named "Temptress," and so on.

While being original (and courteous and considerate) is a worthy goal, the sad fact is that the Rihan language still has a fairly small vocabulary, so some overlapping in ship names (if you would like an authentic Romulan ship name) is to be expected as unavoidable. (At least Rihan is more developed than Kolari, the primary language of the Orions, which has a very small vocabulary and little to nothing explaining the grammar of the language. I would really like to see the Orion languages developed more as well.)

However, expanding the vocabulary is a necessary part of the work which we aim to do at the Imperial Romulan Language Institute Google+ Group. Anyone who is serious about learning the Rihan language (and knows how to behave professionally, with dignity and courtesy) is hereby invited to apply to join the IRLI Group at Google Plus. As a Moderator of the Group, I'm able to issue this invitation and approve applications; the Group is private, but only because we would like to keep trolls out (and kick them if they somehow manage to hide their true nature prior to being approved to join). Be advised, though, that in spite of "Imperial" being part of the name of the Group (a nod to other, past efforts to promote the language), the Owner and Moderators at the Group are STO players whose Romulan characters are loyal to the New Romulan Republic and opposed to the Tal'Shiar and what the Romulan Star Empire became over its final century or so. Thus some (but by no means all) of our conversations in Rihan and in-character will naturally reflect our characters' political sentiments. Translations of these conversations will be provided, in order to help learners become familiar with the way the language fits together, the syntax of the language, the nominal and adjectival declensions, the verbal conjugations, etc.

As for Rihan ship names being used by other players, I have a page up at the Tal'Diann website which lists the names of all my main's ships, gives their meanings, and sometimes expounds upon the names and why I chose them for my ships (Rrhietir hrrau Ehrefvevha hir's'Gessatra ir'Virinat s't'Prell). As time goes on, I intend to include at least one screen shot of each of the ships; images are already there for some of them. A few of these names I am rather attached to, but I also am not and would not like to become so overly attached to them as to get upset that others might use them. If I were that attached to them, I would not publish a page with all of that information.

I'm also very serious about promoting the popularity of learning and use of the Rihan language, its expansion, and the increase in numbers of those who can communicate in that language. No good reason exists why the Klingon language should be more popular than Rihan, except for the more limited vocabulary available for Rihan and some mistakes in the preparation of the various past grammar guides and dictionaries, but those issues can be rectified with dedication, understanding, and information.

One of the Enriovir of the Tal'Diann ("Enriovir" is the plural nominative-accusative form of "Enriov," which means "Senior Commander," a rank equivalent to the Federation Starfleet rank of "Vice Admiral": a member of the Tal'Diann fleet who holds this Fleet Rank is part of the High Command of the Tal'Diann) is even working on a new guide for learners of Rihan, building upon the past efforts of others, with advice and assistance from members of the IRLI Google+ group. Ideally, each new guide of this type should be an improvement on any previous guides, learning from the mistakes of the past and correcting them. He's also working on a new Romulan font (a version is already prepared, but I believe that it's only the first version, and that changes will be made if testing of the font shows a need to make changes).

We are very interested in promoting Rihan, as I've said, and part of that process means getting more people involved in learning the language.

Off-topic: I like your new (Donatra) avatar much better than the previous (Caprica Six) avatar.

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# 55
03-20-2014, 08:38 AM
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Can I get a translation for the word Pheonix? Thanks Protogoth
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Alas, there is no such word in Rihan.
I found something that might work:

Alth'indor

It's not "officially" a Rihan word (insofar as it's not in either the CIRL or IRLI dictionaries, and wasn't used in Diane Duane's works), but it should probably be added to the Rihan lexicon.

However, bear in mind that this name has a historical connection which may put you off using the name. In Path to 2409 (year 2399), the I.R.W. Alth'Indor was the ship commanded by General Tebok, and it exploded due to what was believed by Tebok's engineers to be a virus, killing Tebok and all hands.
The phoenix is sometimes referred to as a firebird, so maybe the translation of firebird would correspond to phoenix? Of course, I guess it's possible that Alth'Indor is a translation of firebird, in which case I'll be quiet.
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# 56
03-20-2014, 12:36 PM
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Does this mean I should change my ship name? I don't want to be taking anyone's idea.
Oh no, not at all! In fact, you'll see RRW Ra'kholh often anyway, as it is one of the random ship names that pops up when you buy a new ship. So no, feel free to use it all you like.
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# 57
03-20-2014, 12:54 PM
I would totally love to join the Rihan language group.

Side-Note: New Romulus Command should be a second address for me I STO there so often.

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# 58
03-20-2014, 01:10 PM
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I would totally love to join the Rihan language group.

Side-Note: New Romulus Command should be a second address for me I STO there so often.
Visit the group's G+ and there's a request an invitation button. We have the group set to invite only to keep trolls out and spam.

Right now we're working on a revised Romulan font (RihanEXT.ttf), based on the work of the old CDSR site, to better separate out things like aspiration and double consonants. The link for that is in the group as I do not like released "alpha" stuff until its better tested internally.

New Romulus Command is also my home away from home. That or hovering over the north pole cloaked to let my ship abilities reset.
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# 59
03-20-2014, 01:38 PM
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Visit the group's G+ and there's a request an invitation button. We have the group set to invite only to keep trolls out and spam.

Right now we're working on a revised Romulan font (RihanEXT.ttf), based on the work of the old CDSR site, to better separate out things like aspiration and double consonants. The link for that is in the group as I do not like released "alpha" stuff until its better tested internally.

New Romulus Command is also my home away from home. That or hovering over the north pole cloaked to let my ship abilities reset.
Sent a request, I'm the Blonde one

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# 60
03-20-2014, 01:42 PM
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Sent a request, I'm the Blonde one
Added and, Æfvadh
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