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# 111
02-25-2014, 12:41 PM
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that was what i thaught too in the first place, but now i think it is not.
the avenger just stole their place in the firepower departement due to the turnrate and 5 tact console slot and the abilitie to slot DHC for pvp, for stf beam are better.
for the rest, just like you said the ship is more limited in it ability to soak/heal damage.
so even if that don't mean much in pve, it will change what you will be able to do with it in pvp.
therefore change it role in comparison to the others, meaning their will be things that will still be done better by the others cruiser.
drunk have more experienced than me on the subject maybe you should ask him the question.




in sto? yes that what it look like indeed, a proviso'-DN.
but that is not what it look like in the episode all good things.
but even with that definition of your it daesn't fit, because if 3 tact console an ensign and a lt tac is enought to be considered a DN well the assault cruiser could be too, and no one would call the assault cruiser a DN.
beside cryptic call it a DN, so a DN it is, we don't loose 2 cruiser command for a proviso'-DN.
so now cryptic, make this ship worthy of the name you give it ( and for wich you make it loose 2 cruiser command ), give it a lt commander tact bo and it will look like less of a joke then.
Both versions of the avenger only have 4 tactical consoles. The fleet Excel/regent both have the same console layout, and nearly identical boff setups, and can tank better. I facestomp avengers in my excel now, especially cannon boats.
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# 112
02-25-2014, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by redz4tw View Post
Both versions of the avenger only have 4 tactical consoles. The fleet Excel/regent both have the same console layout, and nearly identical boff setups, and can tank better. I facestomp avengers in my excel now, especially cannon boats.
But with the maneuverability advantage the Avenger should win. You beat the pilot not the ship.
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# 113
02-25-2014, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mattjohnsonva View Post
You could also say they are both Cryptic developed ships sold in the C store, the Oddy is in no way a counterpart to the Scimmy other than in the way it is purchased.

YAA BOO to you too LMAO
So I was checking something completely unrelated out on STO Wiki, and noticed that the wiki refers to both the USS Odyssey and the USS Enterprise F as Odyssey class Federation Dreadnoughts.

Which would bring it right in line with the Bort and Scim. 3-pack dreadnought ships.

Or something.
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# 114
02-25-2014, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by redz4tw View Post
Both versions of the avenger only have 4 tactical consoles. The fleet Excel/regent both have the same console layout, and nearly identical boff setups, and can tank better. I facestomp avengers in my excel now, especially cannon boats.
man! you are right!
what was i thinking? i confuse it with the scimitar?

i see, the ship got 4 tact in cstore version, 1 more than the other, but in fleet version it didn't get a 5th tac but a 2nd sci.
well in any case that just reinforce what i said about it.


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# 115
02-25-2014, 04:47 PM
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News flash for you. The only thing the avenger beats the other fed cruisers at is a DHC boat. Now that's a very important role, but the avenger can do more damage as a beam boat. If you set it up as a beam boat though, it's redundant because the excel is set up with the same number of consoles, a little different boff seating but still, a very tac minded aux2bat beam boat, and it tanks a lot better too. If you run the avenger as a DBB, idk I haven't done that, so no comment.
Run it with any forward arc fighting technique and its better than the other Fed Cruisers for dps.

Single Cannon/ Turret

DBB/Turret

DHC (or DC)/ Turret

Even BA if you consider staying the the forward BA arc

I've been using:

FA:

2xDHC
2xSingle Cannon
1xTorp

RA:

2x Turret
1x KCB.

It doesnt hit as hard in the front 45, as a DHC heavy loadout, but I am still using a good bit of my guns when my target is to my sides. The ship turns well, but its no escort.
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# 116
08-13-2014, 08:09 PM
buddy i play the Galaxy X with my Vice Admirals and i like the darn thing heck i have even gotten one to turn halfway decently (God i love Fleet Neutronium and RCS Consoles)


anyways the Galaxy X isn't that bad a ship.....also my theory is that some aspects of All Good Things happened in the Prime Universe and that is why we have the Olympic Class the Galaxy X Class and a bunch of Ensigns and Lieutenants in old Mothballed ship Classes *Miranda Class, NX Class, Oberth Class, Constitution Class* and why we have a War with the Klingons



and why Q chooses to pick on us every Christmas\Valentines Day.....cause Picard is..... Dead


so yeah also i have used my Constitution Class at Vice Admiral so.......yeah

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# 117
08-13-2014, 10:50 PM
All it really needed was a LC Tac station and make the single-target lance have 80% - 100% shield penetration to match the show.
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have stuff to rant about on the forums!

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# 118
08-13-2014, 11:10 PM
Lol another better my galaxy thread when there is nothing wrong with it. Almost every proposed fix there is a ship already the exist with the same layout. Few exception. But really there is nothing wrong with the Galaxy.
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# 119
08-14-2014, 02:44 PM
well i really thaught it was a new thread for a moment, until i see one of my post...
who have revived this necro thread?


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