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# 11
02-04-2010, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ankah View Post
the BOff abilities are thesame for both factions, so it still boils down to ship stats, if you and i have the same BOFFs at the same level, fed ship stats are better
Then tell me, what does shield difference means, when everyone will be using RSP ? Nothing...
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# 12
02-04-2010, 11:51 AM
Yep and as I just proved in several PvP matches in my T3 Science ship, Feds, when working together can win.

1st match we were behind when I joined it 5 minutes into the match due to the screwy queues. Got us organized and used my Sci ship PvP build, we turned it around quickly and won the match.

Next few matches that PUG stuck together and we won every match with scores around 8-14 for the Klingons to our 15.

In the last match however, I think those Klingons were doing the suicide run as we won easily 15 to 0 and they didn't seem to be trying.

In almost every match I was top healer by far and in the top 1/3 for damage output, while running at 50 for weapons, 25 for shields and engines, 100 for aux.

My ship was only blown up twice in the 5 or 6 matches. Once in the 1st one because the group of Klingons was at the point I spawned in at and I was trying to test something with one of my anti-cloaking skills. The 2nd time was in a very good, close match, where I got FF'd after having used my heals on a teammate and my RSP was still on cooldown.

For those Feds still claiming Klingons are OP, how about searching my other posts in this forum for the skills I've been telling everyone to use to counter various Klingon tactics. Also, look at the details of your BOff and Captain's powers in the power tray (press P) to see what Captains skills boost them. Then train those captains skills and get equipment (deflectors, consoles, etc) that gives a bonus to those skills.
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# 13 tired of federation crying
02-04-2010, 04:26 PM
Okay I dont even know why I am even bothering to look at these posts but at this point I cant help but weigh in! First off I do plenty of PvP my handle in game is J.J. and fly federation ships and I am probally better known by the klingons because I see them most often! The same klingons over and over and over again..... Now numerous posters come on here complaining about how overpowered the klingon ships are and thats just plain garbage!!!!! Federation ships have more hull more shields and can win in a 1 on 1 situation the Majority of the time...... Why then do the klingons seem to win so much occording to you posters!!!!! Which is odd because of the games I have played in the large majority are Federation wins..... Could it be that the KDF guys play together like a team???? And have more experience???? Hmmmm no it must be the klingon ships are over powered because there suppose to fold like a paper plate too my mighty federation ship...... I mean we all know that the Federation ships are far far far superior according to Star Trek lore and I want my automatic I win button!!!! Get over yourself's especially the escort players!!! You are not cruisers but you have CRAZY damage output learn how to adapt learn your role learn how to stay out of the fray and let the cruisers engage then once battle has gone down fly in and target the ship the cruisers are targeting!!! And FLY OUT..... Dont stay in there turning and burning like your a cruiser..... Your NOT.... you are suppose to be GLASS CANNONS and if you dont like that fact then just fly a different ship! The escorts work just like they should and they are down right OVERPOWERED and when flown by the right person are VERY capable and DANGEROUS in PvP..... Stop thinking you are anything other then frail stop thinking you can run around solo and start stay close too your support ships and start learning how to fly in after targets have been engaged to clean up......

Fact is the majority of FED's are random non teamed havent played together before heck alot maybe queing up for PvP for there first time!!!! Klingons ARE NOT lacking in experience and probally are running vent or TS at this point..... So expect klingons to strike with coordination and skill...... and no thats not overpowered thats team work!!!
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# 14
02-04-2010, 04:38 PM
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They aren't suppose to be . The advantage is the higher hitpoint and the firing arc's.
firing arcs deal with weapons not the ship. Klingons as a whole are not OP and Federation as a whole are not OP. Singular abilities, ship classes, etc are.
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# 15
02-04-2010, 04:46 PM
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They aren't suppose to be . The advantage is the higher hitpoint and the firing arc's.
What does firing arcs have to do with anything? Correct me if I'm wrong but you are implying that it's rougher on klingons because you use cannons... News flash, escorts use cannons so they have the same firing arc.
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# 16
02-04-2010, 05:53 PM
Why do you think Cryptic makes Klingon ships uncloaked in PvE? Maybe because they realize that its boring as hell to just sit around waiting to be attacked deep down inside?

Klingons will get nerfed, and no ammount of saying "It's exactly like its supposed to be" will change that.
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# 17
02-04-2010, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rothnang
Why do you think Cryptic makes Klingon ships uncloaked in PvE? Maybe because they realize that its boring as hell to just sit around waiting to be attacked deep down inside?

Klingons will get nerfed, and no ammount of saying "It's exactly like its supposed to be" will change that.
Let me guess, you're still in T1? I've seen plenty of Cloaked Klingon NPCs in T2+
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# 18
02-04-2010, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Monthar
Let me guess, you're still in T1? I've seen plenty of Cloaked Klingon NPCs in T2+
The only cloaked klingon npcs I have seen are BoPs and there's 2 cloaked along with an uncloaked. You're not exactly waiting for them to attack you, and you're not even surprised when they uncloak because it's expected that the NPC BoPs run in 3's in missions.
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# 19
02-04-2010, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rothnang
Why do you think Cryptic makes Klingon ships uncloaked in PvE? Maybe because they realize that its boring as hell to just sit around waiting to be attacked deep down inside?

Klingons will get nerfed, and no ammount of saying "It's exactly like its supposed to be" will change that.
Please point to a post from any Devs or STO staff saying that Klingons will be nerfed? If you can't, STFU, you don't know what your talking about and obviously have very little experience with the game.

In T1 the Klingons are stronger because we get decent starter gear (Feds can upgrade their gear even better I believe) and usually more often work as a team, whereas every Fed team runs off in all directions shooting different targets and die to focus fire all the time.

In T2 I'd say Feds have the advantage due to the gear upgrades/loot, and the fact Klingons are missing a Cruiser. Feds by then have usually learn to work as a team (sometimes).

In T3 it is a more even, it is more about teamwork, team configuration of ships/skills and experience.

Those complaining that BoPs are too good, look at other posts here, BoPs have much lower hull and shields compared to Federation ships. We have better turning due to most of us use forward firing weapons only with small arcs, whereas most Federation ships use wide arc beams that overlap, thus the reduced turning speed, but they still can fire at anyone, anywhere in range.

Klingon ships run in head on, get shot up so the shields go down fast, then we turn and flee, since if we turn to attack with no front shields we die. People need to stop crying/whining about getting beaten repeatedly then saying Klingons are OP, when they aren't, we just consist of more experienced players and better team work. It is the same deal for those crying that Klingons won't uncloak or leave the mission, if those idiots would look at the player listing of the match, they'll see 7 Feds and 1 or 2 Klingons, that is why they won't uncloak or stay, it happens quite frequently to. So until the queues get fixed, stop crying that Klingons are griefing if they don't uncloak.
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# 20
02-04-2010, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rothnang
Why do you think Cryptic makes Klingon ships uncloaked in PvE? Maybe because they realize that its boring as hell to just sit around waiting to be attacked deep down inside?

Klingons will get nerfed, and no ammount of saying "It's exactly like its supposed to be" will change that.

Umm... We're not NPC ships. We're PC ships. You're going to have to think to beat us. Many Federation premade teams beat premade Klingon teams. That's because those Federation players are good PvP players. When you have FvF these good Federation PvPers will eat you alive. What are you going to complain about then? Nerf the good Federation PvPers because I paid for the game and I want to win in FvF although I PvP horribly?

"You" are nerfed. If Cryptic put you in a ship with double shields and double hull you would still lose 1v1 to a better Federation or Klingon player. Little league teams do not beat major league teams.

And from the sound of it, you don't want to learn how to play better. You want your, "I play Federation, I hit my kill Klingon button, yay!"

That's not going to happen.
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