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Lt. Commander
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# 31
02-04-2010, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GnawLF
Ok, please dont even complain about the Borg PvP. That zone is too easy for Klingons and there might be so many outside influnces that helped the Klingons win. For example, the Borg sometimes completely disable your shield, it would be a piece of cake for Klingons to pick off target already fighting the Borg. If that is not the case then again there is a question of what abilities were used by both teams. Did your entire team have RSP? Who other abilities used.

Remeber the Klinks have a tactical advantage over the Feds in the form of a BoP, a versatile ship that allows you to fit any type of BO. If you have to put some of your tactical officer into cruisers then thats a sacrifice you must make.
No Borg was around, as I said the zone reset and both Federation and Klingon Players were spawn together at point blank ranges. We started firing at one another and then 30 seconds later, it was over with only 1 Klingon casulaty and several Federation.

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Originally Posted by troggbl View Post
Dont take a balanced team into PvP you die, thats what happen, thats what nearly always happens in every game.

Stop complaining about the game being unbalanced and klingons being OP when your not even bothering with the tools in the game designed to counter the things your moaning about.

What do you want us to tell you? Your doing it all right and the game just doesnt like you?
I've responed in alot of your QQ threads, givern advice, tried to give help - and what happens? Next day your back on the forums moaning something else is OP because you lost.

Yea, you dont get anymore useful info - you get L2P L2P L2P and for the love of god L2P.
Given the money I paid for this game, damn will I'll complain to my hearts content. If you don't like my comments, then you are free not to respond.

And need I remind you that the Borg Resource Battle is to fight the Borg, not the Klingons. Which is ironic considering it supposed to be a joint Federation + Klingon Mission, not a PvP Battleground.
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# 32
02-04-2010, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by antilles1 View Post
Feds win most space PvP battles in T3. Want to know why you lost? The absolute hardest thing for Klingons to counter is a healing/debuffing science ship. You had none. The easiest thing for Klingons to kill? Escorts, you had 3.

A focus firing ball of 2 science ships and 2-3 cruisers is pretty much unstoppable.
Can you please stop lying and making up facts in every thread that supports balancing Klingons? You're a horrible fanboy and your lack of common sense and logic is simply distasteful to read.
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# 33
02-04-2010, 04:03 PM
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Can you please stop lying and making up facts in every thread that supports balancing Klingons? You're a horrible fanboy and your lack of common sense and logic is simply distasteful to read.
you are just clueless
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# 34
02-04-2010, 04:05 PM
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you are just clueless
Great comeback. I'm in tier 4. How much tier 3 experience do you have? Klingons easily win 80% of straight up warzones such as cracked planet, briar patch, and solar wind.
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# 35
02-04-2010, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JustTray View Post
Great comeback. I'm in tier 4. How much tier 3 experience do you have? Klingons easily win 80% of straight up warzones such as cracked planet, briar patch, and solar wind.
so because you have nolife you know the game better? and can make non biased assesments?
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# 36
02-04-2010, 04:09 PM
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so because you have nolife you know the game better? and can make non biased assesments?
I think I rest my case. Also reported.
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# 37
02-04-2010, 04:10 PM
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# 38
02-04-2010, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Azurian View Post
No Borg was around, as I said the zone reset and both Federation and Klingon Players were spawn together at point blank ranges. We started firing at one another and then 30 seconds later, it was over with only 1 Klingon casulaty and several Federation.



Given the money I paid for this game, damn will I'll complain to my hearts content. If you don't like my comments, then you are free not to respond.

And need I remind you that the Borg Resource Battle is to fight the Borg, not the Klingons. Which is ironic considering it supposed to be a joint Federation + Klingon Mission, not a PvP Battleground.
So the Klingons just spawned on top of you? Were they cloakled or was that not a factor? Because if it wasn't the Klingons were at a disadvantage. Fed ships can carry the same armament as Klingon ships and have superior defense. So, what OP advantage did they use to overcome the 4v6 advantage you had ... not to mention your advantage (higher defense) was in play while theirs (cloak) wasn't?
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# 39
02-04-2010, 05:02 PM
To be honest, after the last few days of predominantly playing pvp, I have to say that Klingons are fine. And if you look at my previous posts, you'll see that not a day ago I was espousing the exact opposite point of view.

I've been playing STO since open beta. In OB, feds rolled the klinks again, again, and again. We stuck together. It was a good time to be a fed, and I pvp'd a lot. Admittedly, it was unbalanced. I was an engineering officer on a science ship btw, and all of my pvp experience both in OB and after release was pugs.

So, when the real release came around, I thought it would be fun to pvp ina a miranda. Got some gear, went in, and we got rolled again, and again, and again. This ****ed me off a bit. I got to T2, decided to fly an escort for a bit of a challenge (being alpha'd on the weakest fed ship and surviving repeatedly is no mean feat imo, especially in a pug). And for about a day and a half, many of the pugs that I joined failed, just like in T1. But then the pugs I joined started winning more and more often. And I realized something. In all those pugs that we lost, we always had a moron or two (usually in an escort in T2) that spent the entire round doing nothing but flying away from the group at full impulse and dying over and over.

So maybe I just had a bad run with pugs. But yesterday I noticed something. When I hit my sensor scan button, I could see cloaked ships at 11.6 km. Farming the crystalline entity earlier, I had gotten a deflector dish and sci console with decent sensor boosts. So I did some looking around, got some better sensor gear, and lo and behold my escort (low aux) could detect cloaked ships at almost 13 km.

Now that got me thinking, If an escort at low aux with a single science console could get that at T2, what the hell are all our science ships doing? They get double the bonuses from aux power and can fit two sci consoles.

This was some food for thought and it led me to realize that maybe, just maybe, the klinks were right. Maybe nothing had changed since OB (aside from MES of course). Maybe it's just the massive influx of "noobs", of which 9 out of 10 stick with us feds. Maybe.
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# 40
02-04-2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Azurian View Post
And need I remind you that the Borg Resource Battle is to fight the Borg, not the Klingons. Which is ironic considering it supposed to be a joint Federation + Klingon Mission, not a PvP Battleground.
No, it's an iPvP or Competition PvE. Which means both sides are competing against each other to complete the PvE objectives. In other worlds it's like the Objective based, queued PvP arenas, but set in a Fleet Action format. In any case it's still a PvP match. Part of that competition is to stop the other team from completing the objectives while attempting to complete them for your own team.
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