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# 11
02-13-2010, 07:38 PM
Bumping cause people need to read this
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# 12
02-13-2010, 08:34 PM
Please refer to noobs and uninformed players that way you get more points on the insult!

Currently i'd say this fleet action is unplayable via pug and trust me i now i just spent two hours of my life or 1 and a half levels wasting my time. It was still fun ofcourse.
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# 13
02-14-2010, 04:20 PM
omg! i can' get past this mission, everytime i seem to be in a game with a bunch of idiots! lol anyone no of a way i can kick people out of the mission or do it on my own!? lol
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# 14
02-14-2010, 05:54 PM
I like this encounter very much.

If you look at WoW, and you try to get into a any raid with a PUG, they act the same way. This is an open encounter like wtf was his name in Hellfire, and Doomwalker imo.

Can't wait to find a good Fleet and try this out!
Tho, are all fleet members able to join in the same instance? Even if you select your own instance?
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# 15
02-14-2010, 05:58 PM
Well, my problem with doing the Entity (this was like... on the 2nd of February probably, can't remember really) was that the mission text didn't really offer an explanation on how to defeat it as far as I can remember. In zone chat, either people didn't know how it works - like me - or there were people giving contradictory orders on what to do: "Shoot the fragments!" "No don't shoot them!" "No you must!" ad nauseum. I only ended up killing the bugger twice, neither attempt took all that long thankfully. But frankly in both cases I couldn't figure what ended up killing it, as one moment it was at 60-100% HP, and a few seconds later it went boom.

Now if it really is just about kiting the shards and DPSing the Entity itself, then indeed, it's very easy, but what won't be very easy is getting other people to do the same damn thing. But then again I don't really see the point in grinding the bugger either, especially at higher levels. Even at the appropriate level for the Entity, the leveling content is very easy, so what you equip doesn't matter much. And at later levels you already get better stuff as mission rewards and normal drops, and it's not like you need Energy credits for much of anything.
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# 16
02-14-2010, 07:22 PM
Bottom line escorts ruin this fight because we have to sit still to keep the thing in our targets. Sure if people kiting the shards didn't drag them into sitting escorts that would be cool but frankly they are doing their job we escort pilots are not....

Last night I spent 2 hours fighting the C Entity as a normal escort with Cannons sitting stationary and ruining everything for my group as I died to shard after shard until I finally wised up, went to the exchange, and bought some cheap phasers and outfitted my ship to broadside like a cruiser. Guess what...I died only twice but we still couldn't bring the thing down because for every escort pilot such as myself willing to spend the time and money to do my job correctly there are 2x as many that are ignorant and stubborn.

ATTENTION ESCORTS:
IF YOU WANT TO WIN DON'T SIT STILL, DON'T SHOOT SHARDS, BROADSIDE LIKE A CRUISER



P.S. And FFS Fly clockwise not counter clockwise

Respectfully,
-Vox
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# 17
02-14-2010, 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tvih
Well, my problem with doing the Entity (this was like... on the 2nd of February probably, can't remember really) was that the mission text didn't really offer an explanation on how to defeat it as far as I can remember. In zone chat, either people didn't know how it works - like me - or there were people giving contradictory orders on what to do: "Shoot the fragments!" "No don't shoot them!" "No you must!" ad nauseum. I only ended up killing the bugger twice, neither attempt took all that long thankfully. But frankly in both cases I couldn't figure what ended up killing it, as one moment it was at 60-100% HP, and a few seconds later it went boom.

Now if it really is just about kiting the shards and DPSing the Entity itself, then indeed, it's very easy, but what won't be very easy is getting other people to do the same damn thing. But then again I don't really see the point in grinding the bugger either, especially at higher levels. Even at the appropriate level for the Entity, the leveling content is very easy, so what you equip doesn't matter much. And at later levels you already get better stuff as mission rewards and normal drops, and it's not like you need Energy credits for much of anything.
What killed it then was ramming speed which is now nerfed. And before letting the shards hit mines did not heal the entity or spawn small fragments...now they do.

You should kill large and small frags but in doing so it takes dps off the boss. It is easier to kite and avoid them but there are too many nub escort pilots ruining the match.
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# 18
02-14-2010, 11:17 PM
This post should be a sticky.

Had a good small group of people doing this strategy. We got the entity down to 30% then I noticed a bunch of new people warping in only to spawn mine after mine and tons of boarding parties. Others rammed the shards. One guy started going counter clockwise when we were all going clockwise, and a small group huddled behind an asteroid at full stop pooping more mines, watching the shards come right at them, and doing nothing.

Needless to say the entity got back up to 100% in a matter of seconds... almost two hours later and after having jumped into at least a dozen different instances to find a group at least trying to work together I gave up. Everybody tries to do their own thing, they pay no attention to people trying help out in chat, and do not care if there is a strategy. Maybe this needs to become a private group only instance.
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# 19
02-15-2010, 12:27 AM
i think one of the problems that really needs to be looked at is the griefing with mines
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# 20
02-15-2010, 10:01 PM
I tried to do this earlier today before I had to go to work. I didn't know the strat, but I read the chat and got it figured out. I'm looking forward to trying again when I get home. I like this mission. Most of the game hasn't been terribly challenging (or maybe it is the lack of death penalty that makes it feel that way), and this has been kind of fun, even with everyone not doing what they're supposed to.

The escorts thing is the major problem I see with this. Every escort I saw when I was doing this mission was just sitting still, getting smacked around by the fragments.

I have a feeling that after a few days or so, people will have it figured out, and it won't be something to worry much about.
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