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# 41
02-05-2010, 12:36 PM
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It hurts Fed Escorts and Raptors equally.
Well, it did - true but kdf has a 3-forward gun BOP to compensate.
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# 42
02-05-2010, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Meat_Machine
Well, it did - true but kdf has a 3-forward gun BOP to compensate.
You're preaching to the choir here... but it would be nice to give the Raptor a reason for being once again.
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# 43
02-05-2010, 01:03 PM
The only reason the OP ate Klingons for Breakfast in CB and/or OB was the lack of Klingon Boff's and weapons/consoles/etc. Since he played Fed almost exclusively in Beta , he failed to realize how hamstrung the testing actually was . It's not like that anymore and frankly they don't like it . There is no overpowering Klingon advantage. Just better communication and equipment.
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# 44
02-05-2010, 01:07 PM
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The only reason the OP ate Klingons for Breakfast in CB and/or OB was the lack of Klingon Boff's and weapons/consoles/etc. Since he played Fed almost exclusively in Beta , he failed to realize how hamstrung the testing actually was . It's not like that anymore and frankly they don't like it . There is no overpowering Klingon advantage. Just better communication and equipment.
my guild was very coordinated in beta so while your guild may of gotten steamrolled without coordination, vent, and using tactical strategies we managed to win and even still felt like Klingons were weak in OB which the devs agreed and thus made some changes. There is never balance, only forms of improvement.
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# 45
02-05-2010, 01:17 PM
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my guild was very coordinated in beta so while your guild may of gotten steamrolled without coordination, vent, and using tactical strategies we managed to win and even still felt like Klingons were weak in OB which the devs agreed and thus made some changes. There is never balance, only forms of improvement.
Excuse me WTF are you talking about , my guild steamrolled ? Hardly, it really depended on the group make up , if we did lose . Even with the disadvantages we fought well . BoK was the largest CB klingon group. Not sure who you are , nor do I care , not really sure why posted anything in reference to my post since you've made no point other than to thump your chest..
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# 46
02-05-2010, 01:29 PM
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Excuse me WTF are you talking about , my guild steamrolled ? Hardly, it really depended on the group make up , if we did lose . Even with the disadvantages we fought well . BoK was the largest CB klingon group. Not sure who you are , nor do I care , not really sure why posted anything in reference to my post since you've made no point other than to thump your chest..
If you do not know who I am then you did not PvP much in beta. On a side note it's nice to see such rage and anger. My point was that Klingons were underpowered in beta and you saying they were underpowered due to lack of coordination is wrong as I reference myself and my guild as being coordinated and as a result I can still say they were underpowered, hence my point. Also, I never said you or your guild were bad.

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not really sure why posted anything in reference to my post since you've made no point other than to thump your chest..
what?
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# 47
02-05-2010, 02:41 PM
Another obligatory learn to play.
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# 48
02-05-2010, 03:06 PM
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If you do not know who I am then you did not PvP much in beta. On a side note it's nice to see such rage and anger. My point was that Klingons were underpowered in beta and you saying they were underpowered due to lack of coordination is wrong as I reference myself and my guild as being coordinated and as a result I can still say they were underpowered, hence my point. Also, I never said you or your guild were bad.



what?
Please review what you wrote , please read it slowly . They were underpowered , , but i don't believe that it was hopelessly . I just believe , it took a lot of effort to succesed as a klingon in CB , and o a degree OB due to the reasons listed, previously. i starting to sense we're not far apart on the issue , but your initital statement came across all wrong. i apologize for any misunderstanding .
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# 49
02-05-2010, 03:39 PM
I currently have 2 characters on T2 on both factions. I will say I prefer PvP on my KDF but it is just the same in win/loss.

It all boils down to teamplay and how your team perform. A lot of people feel they should be able to take 2-3 people on fairly well. This is a stupid thought and should stop, along with the balance whining.

I read a post somewhere about the balancing crap everyone keeps crying for and some chap quite rightly asked: 'What are they going to balance if both sides have exactly the same abilities?'. And thats the bottom line. Both factions have access to the same skills and weapons (Feds actually get better stuff from PvE but PvP wise its the same).

The only difference is ships. Now everyone seems to be majorly against the cloak that Klingons have which im really confused as to why. Playing against a Klingon who cloaks is a bit annoying ill admit but there are skills available to detect them. Playing a Klingon against Feds you will soon learn that cloaking is almost as important as firing your guns.

EVERY Klingon ship of equal tier is weaker in most ways other than firepower than the Federation counterpart. That being said Klingons only get to choose something that isnt an 'escort' type ship until tier 3 (this also explains why they do so much damage at lower levels).

I dont care what the OP says. Its quite simple. Learn to play. And thats the truth of it all...
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# 50
02-05-2010, 03:59 PM
LF PVP FLEET, Federation, someone help me out here pugs getting boring
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