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# 11
03-09-2014, 05:02 AM
OH BOY!!! Right back to "Use the A2B build to get high DPS!" Frak that. I'd like to be able to use cannons, but oh wait I don't have a BOFF setup so I can use cannons effectively!

Still a ripoff.
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# 12
03-09-2014, 03:30 PM
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Oh I know the basics, my standard GalX does 12 in a pug (couple months ago, so no hangar or spire stuff at the time). My problem is threads where people talk about 'oh yeah ABC ship should be doing 30k, but I drop to 20 when I'm slacking off and using white mkX gear' and such like that, and then they post some shopping list that Captain Average tries out and gets 5k from and doesn't know whats wrong. However actual help, tactics and piloting technique and philosophical approach and build choice explanations, is nowhere to be found. Position? Fine then what IS the correct position, facing, distance, and timing that make such a difference? Friends? What about players who don't have any, instead running with random strangers? Defense? A ship with zero shield hardening may work fine in a group where EVERYONE is flying a fleet-geared faw platform and any threat is dead faster than RSP runs out, but when you're in a pug where 5k makes you The Big Scary Ship by comparison, whats the counter for when 10 things are aggroed after you and you need to tank them for 2 minutes straight? High numbers from speed runs and friends with coordinated debuffs are great for bragging rights and youtube videos, but it doesn't convey much in the way of useful information to the players who don't participate in those circles.
People who talk about "Ship X needs to hit 30k or you're terrible" need to be ignored. They're just here to stroke their egos, and typically wont' share their DPS logs at all (which means they're full of it), so I don't pay them any mind. I believe that if you can join the 10k+ DPS channels, you'll be able to get help... unfortunately, I am not a member of those channels and am not sure how to join them.
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# 13
03-09-2014, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sarcasmdetector View Post
Ashisogi Jizo

This is a pretty standard A2B build that takes advantage of the removal of X Team shared cooldowns.

Phaser build swaps the ProtPols for [Advanced Fleet Phaser Beam Array Mk XII [Dmg]x2 [Acc]x2], the Protonic console for [Console - Tachyokinetic Converter]
, and the Polaron locators for Phaser Locator consoles.

Parses:
Protonic Polaron build
32k ISE with randoms from Redditchat channel

34k ISE with randoms from Redditchat channel

35k ISE with randoms from DPS 10k channel

Phaser Build
36k ISE with randoms from DPS 10k and 20k channels **Check out 306k Lance hit!!!**

30k CSE w/ randoms from Redditchat channel
So I'm curious to know what the non-fleet version does, or more specifically what it did prior to the reboot. Did you do any parses prior in the old X?

Be nice for comparison. Just for you know, all those "The updated didn't do enough" posts kicking around.
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# 14
03-09-2014, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by priestofsin420 View Post
People who talk about "Ship X needs to hit 30k or you're terrible" need to be ignored. They're just here to stroke their egos, and typically wont' share their DPS logs at all (which means they're full of it), so I don't pay them any mind. I believe that if you can join the 10k+ DPS channels, you'll be able to get help... unfortunately, I am not a member of those channels and am not sure how to join them.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh....php?t=1041451

that should help
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# 15
03-09-2014, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by snoggymack22 View Post
So I'm curious to know what the non-fleet version does, or more specifically what it did prior to the reboot. Did you do any parses prior in the old X?

Be nice for comparison. Just for you know, all those "The updated didn't do enough" posts kicking around.

I didn't own the gal-x before the revamp but it was a 20-25k ship. the added hangar bay should have added around 3k to that depending on which pets you use.
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# 16
03-09-2014, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sarcasmdetector View Post
I didn't own the gal-x before the revamp but it was a 20-25k ship. the added hangar bay should have added around 3k to that depending on which pets you use.
Cool. Thanks. I always did get the feeling it was a ship that could do what it needed to do before and that the changes did move the needle a bit.

Numbers > Adjectives.

So thanks for posting your data.

/salute
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# 17
03-09-2014, 08:08 PM
Thanks for posting the build, I went and got the deflector (already had everything else) and my phasers are [acc][crtd]x2 MK XIIs and I use the saucer sep instead of the Isometric Charge.

I just pulled 28.5 k In an infected I randomly PUGed.

That's better than my highest Avenger DPS, so now I need to try this on THAT ship.
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# 18
03-09-2014, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sarcasmdetector View Post
I didn't own the gal-x before the revamp but it was a 20-25k ship. the added hangar bay should have added around 3k to that depending on which pets you use.
I've never heard of ANYONE putting out those numbers in an X before the revamp. I was pushing 10K at best in my BFAW A2B build before the revamp. What were you using to get 25K pre-revamp?

That just seems odd to me.
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# 19
03-09-2014, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sevmrage View Post
I've never heard of ANYONE putting out those numbers in an X before the revamp. I was pushing 10K at best in my BFAW A2B build before the revamp. What were you using to get 25K pre-revamp?

That just seems odd to me.
Likely a team with plenty of debuffs, like APB.
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# 20
03-09-2014, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sevmrage View Post
I've never heard of ANYONE putting out those numbers in an X before the revamp. I was pushing 10K at best in my BFAW A2B build before the revamp. What were you using to get 25K pre-revamp?

That just seems odd to me.
Before the revamp in a non-A2B build I was pulling 18k in my normal Gal-X
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