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# 21
03-13-2014, 12:31 PM
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Well ya I guess tech doffs are op on any ship... seriously though anyone that buys either of those over a monbosh is an even bigger sucker.
fixed.


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I'm not a fan of a2b only escorts tbh.
if you dont like things to overpowered on principle i understand.


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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
When you post, accurate, things like this it makes your posts on how A2B isn't a problem very hard to believe.

Since that's exactly what makes the Hirogen Hunter better.
oh its not just that. this is the best example of an escort/destroyer that doesnt have a big drawback wile also being able to run an AtB build. all this does is make me think that all other doffs need buffing even more


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In all seriousness though, it is kind of an example of the powercreep taking place in the game, no?

Think about how much you might have wanted a Bug 6 months ago? 12 months ago? 18 months ago? 24 months ago? Picture the next 6 months...12 months...etc, etc, etc. If they want to keep including it in this promo and expect folks to buy it...they're going to need to buff it down the road or just move it to the Lobi store and put a new ship in for the promo.

as of this moment, this is what you can do with the hunter


EPtE, AtB and AtD build with 4 turn + all res gives you more turn and movement speed with full up time give the ship top tier movement AND for me 48% hull res

with only 1 AtB, up time is spotty, but just dumping CRF and BO down range tends to do jack squat these days all by it self. on escorts im a convert to single AtB+AtD because even on non 1 trick pony vap builds up time is a distance second to lineing up as much spike as you can.

1 AtB giving your EPt skills 100% reliable uptime as apposed to damage control less then perfect uptime, the single built in COM tac is all you need in most cases running on pretty decent up time. only vapers will miss the second LTC level tac power, but vapers are also using cloakers

post team system cooldown change is what really pushed me into getting one. not only does it have the above advantages over the bug, but i can run ET1/3, and ST1/2 wile still having room for the 2 EPt skills and HE, TSS. it is immune to debuffs, immune to every single thing a sci ship can hit it with, and with all those heals is an auxiliary team healboat as well. its u turn console gives like +100 defense wile it does its animation, if you hear a cloaking device hit it and your attacker has to deal with you moving in an extreamly strange way and a huge debuff to his accuracy. plus the ~50% hull armor, and top tier movement, and if your ~15k away from anyone you might as well be cloaked.

lol bug, and all the other escorts that cant run AtB+AtD builds. compare this 17 turn escort to the defiant and it gets absolutely sad. this is the best example of power creep in the game today. well, next to warbirds i guess

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# 22
03-13-2014, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
When you post, accurate, things like this it makes your posts on how A2B isn't a problem very hard to believe.


Since that's exactly what makes the Hirogen Hunter better.
I find it easy to run circles around a2b escorts with a bug using doffed a2d, I would say it may be a better escort against most ships, but not against the bug. I like to be built for 1v1 in kerrat since it happens a lot so bug is best for that I think.
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# 23
03-13-2014, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
When you post, accurate, things like this it makes your posts on how A2B isn't a problem very hard to believe.


Since that's exactly what makes the Hirogen Hunter better.
Yeah but A2B or no the Hunter is one ugly garbage can of a ship.

No offense to people who like their Hunters! The buggy is just so pretty in pink.
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# 24
03-13-2014, 12:41 PM
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6 tactical consoles?
Make it 12 and you have yourself a deal.
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# 25
03-13-2014, 12:56 PM
dont forget the elachi escort too, wile down 1 turn it can do the exact same thing, wile also haveing room for an offensive LTC sci power. the ENS uni it has will determine if you run an ET or TSS though if you dont run ST3 on it lol
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# 26
03-13-2014, 01:09 PM
I'd rather see them buff faction ships that got left behind in the creep before the other stuff. That is just me though heh.
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# 27
03-13-2014, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by talore003 View Post
I'd rather see them buff faction ships that got left behind in the creep before the other stuff. That is just me though heh.
its got everything to do with doffs really. this hunter is no better then the defiant without them, just different. doffs need to be buffed so ships arent unfairly left behind.
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# 28
03-13-2014, 01:37 PM
But no one is yelling "buff the fleet Saber" or others the JHAS completely out classes
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# 29
03-13-2014, 01:40 PM
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But no one is yelling "buff the fleet Saber" or others the JHAS completely out classes
this is a satire thread that i ruined by dropping truth bombs lol
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# 30
03-13-2014, 01:40 PM
Water's getting hot I see. I'd say almost boiling.

There's an idea. Jemmies need hot tubs. Now!
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