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# 91
02-09-2010, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gardein View Post
Wow - Bitter much? I just love forum tough guys. ..or maybe I am just getting that impression from you L2P and "which game are you playing" comments..
I am not? Actually I am switching to Klingons now, still will do some last PvE on my RA2 fed. But I am done with him for now.

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You do realize that the OP complaint was that there was an imbalance because the T4 Klingon cruiser had the DPS of an Fed escort and was not giving up enough to get it, right?
I think there is imbalance at T4+, we will see. So far there are as many retarded on Klingon side as I noticed on Fed. But it could be rerolls as myself.



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Nice setup find with the turrets btw - which can be placed on only Klingon cruisers.. oh, oops. So you are arguing that your science ship damage output is overpowered when compared to the DPS of the Fed escort?
Well I'd love to have canons on my science ship. Albeit I can't.

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Though you do have some great observations here, I have noticed that it does not take skill to level in STO..
Doesn't take a skill to level in WoW, even bots could do it :-)
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# 92
02-09-2010, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Parallel View Post
And the turn rate of science vessels, and the survivability of a cruiser, not to mention a cloaking device. Honestly, some balance is needed.
Did you ever try to win a match as Klingon where 4 or 5 Science ships are included? No chance to win. There is more need to balance Science ships than Klingon heavy cruisers in my op
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# 93
02-09-2010, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Renak View Post
Did you ever try to win a match as Klingon where 4 or 5 Science ships are included? No chance to win. There is more need to balance Science ships than Klingon heavy cruisers in my op
NOO!!! I love my babies...
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# 94
02-09-2010, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Parallel View Post
And the turn rate of science vessels, and the survivability of a cruiser, not to mention a cloaking device. Honestly, some balance is needed.
Hey, it's another drive-by nerf the other side post!

We'll just put that over here with the rest...
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# 95
02-09-2010, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cocoa-jin View Post
Then you shuld have chosen Klingon...we obviously suite your style of combat. If you cant recognize, embrace and adapt to the equipment's strengths and needs, its your failure. I wont try and take a dump truck and make it a tank. i wont try to take a Destroyer and make it a battleship, I wont try and take a FW190 and make it a Hurricane.

As a warior/combatant...you learn the tools of the trade, not the other way around. If they give you a rifle you learn to use it not like a sub-machine gun. In thi case, STO has blessed you with the option to choose from a truly divese set of tools...you my friend need only choose the tool that actually suites you...how lucky! If the tool that suites you and your style doesnt stroke your ego enough and you choose to not select it, you have two choices. Try and pideon hole the tool into a role it wasnt intended for and lose...or adapt yourself to the tool and succeed...which one will your ego like more?

See my friend, Im a BoP Captain...why? Because it suites my style of combat...we looked at eachother and knew from th estart it was love. I havent looked at and wont touch anything else in game. I knew it was the tool for me before the game was even announced. I fly BoPs like BoPs. I use BoPs like they like and need to be used. I dropped my ego and my preconceived notions of my own grander and totally gave myself to the BoP...because thats when it'll give me everything it has.

What am I...Im not a one many Fleet, the BoP was never intended to be, so I dont try. Contrary to popular belief me and my BoP is support. Now they type of support I provide is up to me(thats the beauty of the BoP), but I never go into an engagement thinking I have to be hero right here, right now.

So what am I in my BoP...Im nothing but its strengths...period, nothing less, nothing more...Im totally out of the equation. I dont try to make my ship what I want it to be...I built her to be everything she already is and wants to be.

Feds need to learn that with theor ships...especially because they are so role specific. Their strength is in their specializations...your weakness is in not recognizing it.
I would love to be a BoP captain. The problem is the klinks have no pve content worth mentioning atm, and they will probably never have nearly as much as the feds have now. And I don't want to spend all of my time doing pvp. Once I get to admiral I probably will resume working on my klink though.

If I could fly a BoP in fed pve, that would be the pinnacle of the STO experience for me. It's funny too, a lot of star fleet captains did, at one point or another, commandeer enemy ships too. Too bad we can't put ships on the exchange...
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# 96
02-09-2010, 05:07 PM
I don't know, while we're all going on about cannons - the other side of this is that feds need to be using more AE movement reduction.... that is the biggest weakness to cannons and I never see it.

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I would love to be a BoP captain. The problem is the klinks have no pve content worth mentioning atm, and they will probably never have nearly as much as the feds have now. And I don't want to spend all of my time doing pvp. Once I get to admiral I probably will resume working on my klink though.

If I could fly a BoP in fed pve, that would be the pinnacle of the STO experience for me. It's funny too, a lot of star fleet captains did, at one point or another, commandeer enemy ships too. Too bad we can't put ships on the exchange...
THIS!

There should be a way, with enough effort and dedication that you get to use whatever weapon suits you.
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# 97
02-09-2010, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Meat_Machine


THIS!

There should be a way, with enough effort and dedication that you get to use whatever weapon suits you.
Nooooooooooooo!
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# 98
02-09-2010, 06:54 PM
BoP = Federation escort with same damage potential, cloak, more agility, more speed and ability to act as support / debuff - they can just switch BrOffs when not under attack!

Battle Cruiser = Fed cruiser with no weapon restrictions and a not flying brick turn rate.

Noo we are not OP at all... Feds just gotta adapt and make use of better tactics. There's nothing that says we'll still totally outperform them using the same tactics as them since our ships are just better overall.

People complaining about science vessels are simply doing so because their BoP teammates on the Klingon side were too dumb to switch to Science BrOffs to act like support when needed. Are you people saying that Klingons needs to keep dem better ships to compensate for their intelligence and lack to tactics?
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# 99
02-09-2010, 07:27 PM
Raptors = fed escorts with slightly weaker hull and cloak.

BoP on the other hand get shreaded faster than an escort will, considering how fast an escort can get itself shreaded this is admittedly not as big a disadvantage as might be expected for its versatility. Thought the BoP also has one less BO slot at every teir after the first to pay for that versatility.
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# 100
02-09-2010, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatness View Post
Raptors = fed escorts with slightly weaker hull and cloak
??????

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