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# 31
02-09-2010, 07:45 AM
Raptor is very similar to a bird of prey, the main differences being combat cloak. turn rate and hull strength with the raptor having a slightly stronger hull than the bird of prey. Is this enough to offset the BoP's advantages? Probably not but the raptor is still a decent ship, it's just the BoP's used correctly are phenomenal
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# 32
02-09-2010, 07:51 AM
They should make the Raptors into science ships - then there'd be an escort/science/cruiser at each tier, with each being still slightly different than the Fed version.
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# 33
02-09-2010, 08:14 AM
Raptor has the highest dps output of all the klingon ships. That's what its good at.

Edit: Above comment is only accurate for T5.
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# 34
02-09-2010, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hundredth View Post
Raptor has the highest dps output of all the klingon ships. That's what its good at.
(reffering only to Tier 2)

But it doesnt really, if it's nose is only able to point at the target (just for example) a fraction of the time a BOP can point it's nose at a target , then the BOP is doing more damage. I of course am reffering to close range combat.
I imagine if you equip one specifically to do long range then maybe the tables change, then its use would be more supportive in nature, hang out on the outide of combat throwing its damage out from longer range where it isnt required to to have to turn a lot. But close in...the BOP will outdamage it easily as normally the enemy cant get away from it.

Hmmm.....perhaps I will try and see about outfitting my Raptor for such a purpose and give it a try....food for thought.
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# 35
02-09-2010, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Hundredth View Post
Raptor has the highest dps output of all the klingon ships. That's what its good at.
What are you basing this on?

In T3 the BOP has just as many weapon slots and can actually fit a LtCom Tactical and a Lt Tactical, while the Raptor can only fit a LtCom Tactical and an Ensign Tactical.

The K'Tinga has one more weapon slot than the Raptor and can still fit cannons and (in my opinion) still turn well enough to use them.

I don't see where the Raptor is a superior DPS machine at all.
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# 36
02-09-2010, 08:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naevius
They should make the Raptors into science ships - then there'd be an escort/science/cruiser at each tier, with each being still slightly different than the Fed version.
all the bad things the scientists give?
shut up!
you can also fly BOP if you wants...

@Slamz: BOP can USE ALL Slots for Science, Tactic or Engenieer... you can fly with 3 Science Teams if you wants.
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# 37
02-09-2010, 08:58 AM
How do you simply switch after you have made your selection of ships? You mean you purchased another ship right?
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# 38
02-09-2010, 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Temiel
all the bad things the scientists give?
shut up!
you can also fly BOP if you wants...

@Slamz: BOP can USE ALL Slots for Science, Tactic or Engenieer... you can fly with 3 Science Teams if you wants.
The point is the Raptor is useless as another escort, so make it into a ship with science-type bonuses and stations.
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# 39
02-09-2010, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Slamz
What are you basing this on?

In T3 the BOP has just as many weapon slots and can actually fit a LtCom Tactical and a Lt Tactical, while the Raptor can only fit a LtCom Tactical and an Ensign Tactical.

The K'Tinga has one more weapon slot than the Raptor and can still fit cannons and (in my opinion) still turn well enough to use them.

I don't see where the Raptor is a superior DPS machine at all.
Sorry, I was not paying attention. My comment was in regards to T5 only. I don't know about raptors before that.
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# 40
02-09-2010, 09:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naevius
The point is the Raptor is useless as another escort, so make it into a ship with science-type bonuses and stations.
Probably give subsystem targeting to Escorts and Raptors.
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