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# 11
02-09-2010, 01:03 PM
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Merc's got a good point, I didn't think about it like that.
Indeed. The Borg should always be NPC in my opinion.

Besides, I'd like to see them first upgrade the Klingons, then introduce the Romulans in basic form, then upgrade them and start on the Cardassians/and/or Dominion etc.
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# 12
02-09-2010, 01:28 PM
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Good, but the skill system and BOff system would have to be significantly altered for it to work... so I'd say no time soon. Maybe an expansion. It'd be a lot of work on Cryptic's part to implement... but hey, so would any new faction.

I'm more concerned about being able to play a Cardassian, myself. Romulan would be pretty cool, too, but I really want Cardassians.

Edit: Or bring back the Dominion and make them playable. Playing as a Jem'Hadar would be bad*ss
That. All of it. Borg would be nice, but they are quite low on my wishlist. It goes more like Cardassians, Jem'Hadar, Vorta, and though I'm probably pretty alone with that - Flaxians. Dominion as a faction would totally rock.
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# 13
02-09-2010, 05:45 PM
fair point but thats saying why they make klingonsplayable AND main enemy of the federation in this STO federation klingon war story.... goes agasint what you say personly i see no problem because the focus of STO isnt borg its klingon enemy which they seem to have PvE vs klingon... and yet isnt a PvP unless want it to be so you are infact wrong in that respect the borg is just there, it isnt main enemy
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# 14
02-09-2010, 06:44 PM
Yeah i would like to be able to play as a borg. But the only way that i could see the borg being accepted if it was an off shoot of the borg that broke away from the collective, and they are being hunted by the borg and all the other races...

But the only way that they would put this into the game if they write a story that would put a new enemy that is behined the events that are happening. With the federation and klingon wars, and the reason behined the destruction of the romulen home world. and every thing else.

Then they could write a stroy that involved these splinter borg to make alainceses with the diffrent factions that are out thier. but the problem is with the first contact. Since they look like borg, the other factions would shot first and ask later, but they would have an opt. to gain their trust.

But i don't see this happening any time soon. But still would love to be able to play as a borg. Ever since i first saw the borg, would just love to see the back and underline story of the borg.

Sory, some miss spelling.
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# 15
02-09-2010, 06:48 PM
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fair point but thats saying why they make klingonsplayable AND main enemy of the federation in this STO federation klingon war story.... goes agasint what you say personly i see no problem because the focus of STO isnt borg its klingon enemy which they seem to have PvE vs klingon... and yet isnt a PvP unless want it to be so you are infact wrong in that respect the borg is just there, it isnt main enemy
Well that is your opinion but the Borg are in fact a COMMON enemy however I never said they were the MAIN enemy I just stated they are a Common enemy. With a common enemy Cryptic can better tailor missions that can relate to ANY faction. Fed get mission to eliminate Borg in "X" sector space with a certain Fed reward Klingon get a very similar mission with a Klingon reward etc etc. and therefore a big part of any story line. Even the end of Open Beta what happened? Was it a Klingon invasion on Federation space? Was it a Federation invasion on Klingon space? No it was the Borg invading the starbases and a big GM controlled Borg Cube. Yes there are Fed vs Klingon missions. But a common good story line with alot of options for ANY faction is that against the Borg and other future NON Playable races. To eliminate the Borg as a NPC only faction would just gimp any future storyline especially if they tailor end game content against the Borg ... like I said though it was my opinion.

Let me ask this.... what kind of Tier Ships do the Borg have and class ships? I could see this being extremely overpowering and unbalanced if the Borg could have a Science, Escort and Cruiser class ship all in one with a multiple Phaser banks and torpedo tubes on each face of the cube. It's kinda why it would be best to leave the Borg to NPC's and that is also why they offered Liberated Borg to people who would like to play as a Borg.

As well as if you want to be Borg then maybe you should have gotten the Lifetime Sub coulda had one if it is that important. But like I said in my prior post that you ignored. THIS IS MY OPINION.
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# 16
02-10-2010, 05:23 AM
i did get the lifetime sub

and borg ships have tiers like anyother race in startrek,

coffin/scout 1
scout cube 2
assimilator 3
sphere 4
cube 5
tactical cube 5/6 or what ever numbers lol

and at end would be the "admerals" special which would of course be the dimond, and i think tho i agree to the common enemy thing i say they will loose players if dont add them at a later date i do agree that klingons need upgrading first and them to add the 2 promised races in there faction screen but i think they should have it on the cards for a later date, and the borg are a big collective theres no reason to say cant have players and the common encounters of borg, i mean just because players will be playing as them dont mean the rest of the collective still wont be assimilating and destroying the other races am i not right o.o
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# 17
02-10-2010, 05:36 AM
I dont agre with earlier posts that you couldnt use the same sort of skill tree that is used now.

Anyways, a playable borg race would be nice.
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# 18
02-10-2010, 05:40 AM
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Hello im Soka and im a Borg-aholic and i make this "thread" what ever that means to ask the great STO public if they think a borg faction would be good or bad for STO and why they think it would work
Tricky one... It would have to be a renegade borg faction or there would be no individuality, and to be honest, the liberated borg already has that covered.

I cant see any really valid way to make it a playable faction, at most they could be used in a way like LOTR's play a monster, or WoW when a player can be changed into a ghoul. Maybe being defeated by the borg allows you to be a borg who can attack anything and anyone until killed.
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# 19
02-10-2010, 05:42 AM
If they made the Borg playable they they just wouldn't be the Borg. It's a nice idea, but it would just be the same game progression with a different skin which would defeat the object of playing a race that is as different as the Borg. If they did this I would not be interested at all. If they decided to create a new experience from scratch, perhaps using some kind of upgrade system whereby you assimilate new tech as you progress and adapt your ship and drones with the new tech then it might work quite well. But that is a major overhaul and I would expect it to be an expansion some way down the line.

I appreciate the appeal of playing as Borg and the Borg ships are really interesting, but If they didnt make substantial changes to the progression system then it would be a pretty pathetic attempt with no consideration to the IP at all, which would be very unfortunate. I accept that changes need to be made and compromises reached in order to make the game happen, but completely disregarding major elements of characterisation just to give people some new ships to play with is going too far.
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# 20
02-10-2010, 06:05 AM
I like playing a liberated Borg, but I have to agree that it just wouldn't be in canon to have the actual Borg playable. That would imply individuality where there can be none. The queen is the only one that acts as an individual but she truly is not.

It would be neat to make it playable but they would have to strip you of all your individualism. You would start with a kit they choose and that would be the kit your stuck with until they need to modify you for a different missions. You would have no choice on the missions they send you to do either. When the mission is over you would have to go back to your cubicle and recharge till your needed again.
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