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# 11
06-30-2014, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by adjudicatorhawk View Post
The patch note is incorrect - it was meant to state that the recruitment assignment for R+D materials and Duty Officers gives Development CXP (since it's a duty officer mission). R+D assignments do not give CXP of any sort - they are their own system.
Speaking of various types of XP... Do you have any plans to increase school experience gain in Crafting? It's far too low at the moment.
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# 12
06-30-2014, 05:46 PM
There are still a couple of major bugs with the DOFF system UI

1 - All completed missions are showing up as duplicated.
2 - You still cannot collect the reward from the completion screen, you still have to view then complete.
3 - At least one or two complete DOFF missions are "hiding". I had four running, four completed but only duplicates of three showed up. This is still showing me with a blank completion screen but one or two missions yet to complete. These are also not counting toward the total missions I can run.
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# 13
06-30-2014, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by adjudicatorhawk View Post
The patch note is incorrect - it was meant to state that the recruitment assignment for R+D materials and Duty Officers gives Development CXP (since it's a duty officer mission). R+D assignments do not give CXP of any sort - they are their own system.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you have anything to share with us about progress on the crafting system so far? Like what we could look forward to in Thursday's patch or how all of our concerns on the system are being dealt with? The potential solutions you guys have etc... Communication with this system is critical, both ways, because it is a fundamental MMO system.
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# 14
06-30-2014, 05:55 PM
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yeah I'll just end up dismissing them or discarding the pack/dropping the mission if allowed to do that.
You are encouraged to dismiss them if you do not need them. That's totally kosher. The reason for including them with the tutorial starter pack is to ensure that players new the system have all the necessary doffs to participate in crafting, though they give no bonus.

Players that have already participated in the Duty Officer system likely already have plenty of the necessary personnel on their ships. So please - dismiss at will!
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# 15
06-30-2014, 06:03 PM
Post 6/30/14 Tribble patch:

Well, I guess perhaps the new crafting aspect of the Doff system works; but for me nothing else in the Doff system does as, with 4 assignments showing as completed, as soon as I hit the 'View Completed' button; INSTANT crash to desktop.

I'm sorry, but I don't think trading the functionality of the current Doff system for a 'crafting only' system is a fair trade myself. I'm amazed QA is passing these builds, and it's scary to me what the final result will be as with 3 patches in there's nothing but CTDs UNLESS you're only using the Crafting part of the Doff system.

And yes, I realize this is all on Tribble, but given Cryptic's past record on major bugs reported on Tribble, I'll be surprised if all this is resolved in 3 weeks. But, time will tell. (And sorry, if you think it's due to the Tribble character copy process; if anything that goes to show how bad of a testbed environment Tribble is.

The last time I saw something this messed up was right before Season 4 - with the Foundry. EVERYTHINBG that happened when that Season patch went live was brought up before it went Live on Tribble. Zeronious Rex' reply to those of us reporting this stuff was effectively "Don't worry; we're testing all this internally too. The Live push will be okay."

So, yeah, color me unimpressed with the current state of the Doff system on Tribble.
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# 16
06-30-2014, 06:15 PM
Why are there even special duty officers for this? Is there going to be anything so special about a persons job that a guy who goes to a replicator and asks for a torpedo can't be a projectile weapons specialist? Stop trying to screw people over.
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# 17
06-30-2014, 06:20 PM
Trying to use the buttons on the Overview tab of the DOFF system is crashing my game. Did it before the Tribble patch today as well.
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# 18
06-30-2014, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
You are encouraged to dismiss them if you do not need them. That's totally kosher. The reason for including them with the tutorial starter pack is to ensure that players new the system have all the necessary doffs to participate in crafting, though they give no bonus.

Players that have already participated in the Duty Officer system likely already have plenty of the necessary personnel on their ships. So please - dismiss at will!
If that's the intent, why not just give them normal white doffs? These doffs that are not doffs really strike me as bizarre, as I explain here.

Also, how does a level-50 character get the pack on Tribble? Do I have to retransfer the character?
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# 19
06-30-2014, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by coldsnapped View Post
Known Issues:
  • UI for the Crafting system is still a work in progress.
Is the doff UI on tribble in it's final state? What improvements can we honestly expect at this point? Does cryptic think following the example set by Microsoft using a UI designed for tablets/phones and desktop PCs will have a different result with the doff UI?

Neither the NW crafting system, nor Hearthstone require the same amount of data displayed, sorting, nor as many layers as the current STO doff system/UI and are not quite comparable unfortunately.
STO's F2P is basically an inferior experience for the masses at no cost being subsidized by a handful of whales seeking whatever it is that motivates them to spend hundreds if not thousands on a game.

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# 20
06-30-2014, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticarmsman View Post
Post 6/30/14 Tribble patch:

Well, I guess perhaps the new crafting aspect of the Doff system works; but for me nothing else in the Doff system does as, with 4 assignments showing as completed, as soon as I hit the 'View Completed' button; INSTANT crash to desktop.

I'm sorry, but I don't think trading the functionality of the current Doff system for a 'crafting only' system is a fair trade myself. I'm amazed QA is passing these builds, and it's scary to me what the final result will be as with 3 patches in there's nothing but CTDs UNLESS you're only using the Crafting part of the Doff system.

And yes, I realize this is all on Tribble, but given Cryptic's past record on major bugs reported on Tribble, I'll be surprised if all this is resolved in 3 weeks. But, time will tell. (And sorry, if you think it's due to the Tribble character copy process; if anything that goes to show how bad of a testbed environment Tribble is.

The last time I saw something this messed up was right before Season 4 - with the Foundry. EVERYTHINBG that happened when that Season patch went live was brought up before it went Live on Tribble. Zeronious Rex' reply to those of us reporting this stuff was effectively "Don't worry; we're testing all this internally too. The Live push will be okay."

So, yeah, color me unimpressed with the current state of the Doff system on Tribble.
yep if this issue has not been addressed there is no point in me testing as all my materials are coming from DOff mission and I am not CDT a half dozen times just to get them all collected.
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