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# 21
07-07-2014, 02:59 PM
A lot of you are comparing the Star Fleet uniform code to current military uniform codes.

Just want to point out that Star Fleet isn't a military. While it is tasked with defending the Federation, it's not a militaristic organisation. It's prime focus is exploration and scientific research.

And yes, what with all that's been going on in the last 30 odd years or so in the Trek universe what with the Dominion War and all that followed after it leading up to 2409, things have gotten pretty hairy. And while skirts are probably not considered appropriate dress for any kind of militaristic mission, they are perfectly acceptable for ship crews.

Any kind of Star Fleet officer sitting at her station has no need to wear trousers, it's perfectly acceptable for her to wear a skirt or dress if the option is available. Officers beaming down to a planet on a survey mission where they'll be climbing over terrain or even some kind of tactical exercise are going to need to wear trousers as it's just not practical to wear a skirt in these kinds of situations. And this is why I'll be using the Odyssey Tactical uniform for my away team.

There are skirt options already in game, and from TOS up until about 3rd season of TNG, skirts were a staple of the Star Fleet uniform for females. The lack of a matching Odyssey skirt and boots doesn't make much sense to me considering the new Odyssey uniforms they're releasing in 9.5. I'd really like to see them put those options in, as well as the skant. Now as for the skant, I don't think the ridiculously short version as seen in TNG would work, but something in the Odyssey style and at the length of the Academy skirt would be great I think.
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# 22
07-07-2014, 03:10 PM
I'll echo the claim that the Starfleet Academy skirt is practically perfectly suited to be an Odyssey Uniform skirt.

The cut is the same, the material feel of the texture matches. It's what I've been using and I've been extremely satisfied with the result.

I'm surprised Thomas actually didn't make mention of it in the blog. I'm in approval with the Odyssey getting its skirt version officialized and made available without needing to buy the Academy uniform (which new players start with now in the tutorial (but lose later?), so, maybe it shouldn't be a Z-Store purchase now?
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# 23
07-07-2014, 04:55 PM
Yeah, the fact that the Academy uniform is a Zen purchase is a little off. And also, I'm currently using the Academy skirt on my character with the Odyssey tunic, it does match really well. I can imagine if they ever did an Odyssey skirt it would be a similar style but with maybe some piping like the tunics have.
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# 24
07-07-2014, 05:21 PM
Skants be damned.

I'm still waiting on that Kilt.
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# 25
07-07-2014, 06:11 PM
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No one wants the skant....they just want to be clowns.


So, NO.
Incorrect.

I continue to support inclusion of a unisex skant addition to Starfleet costume sets.
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# 26
07-07-2014, 06:20 PM
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Yeah that totally looks phased out right there,
Eh, that one is already in the game anyway, it's the Sierra one, no?
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# 27
07-07-2014, 06:31 PM
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I said phasing out, not banned. Also there other countries with other militaries in the world.
I have the latest updated version of the AR 670-1, no talks about the skirt being phased out for the army??? unless I totally missed it, its quite possible

that being said, skirts are pretty commonly used in STO for multiple uniforms including the academy version
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# 28
07-07-2014, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jenel79 View Post
Any kind of Star Fleet officer sitting at her station has no need to wear trousers, it's perfectly acceptable for her to wear a skirt or dress if the option is available. Officers beaming down to a planet on a survey mission where they'll be climbing over terrain or even some kind of tactical exercise are going to need to wear trousers as it's just not practical to wear a skirt in these kinds of situations. And this is why I'll be using the Odyssey Tactical uniform for my away team.
My thoughts exactly. Though I'd also let the guys where skirts too. No reason to limit it to the ladies, and you just can't play the bagpipes properly without a good pleated skirt either.
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# 29
07-08-2014, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rustychat View Post
My thoughts exactly. Though I'd also let the guys where skirts too. No reason to limit it to the ladies, and you just can't play the bagpipes properly without a good pleated skirt either.

Ha! If we got a kilt we would definitely have to have a bagpipe emote!
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# 30
07-08-2014, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jenel79 View Post
Just want to point out that Star Fleet isn't a military. While it is tasked with defending the Federation, it's not a militaristic organisation. It's prime focus is exploration and scientific research.
So they claim at least.

They do still have a naval style chain of command and rank structure, so naval style rules and regulations certainly make sense.
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I would definitely agree, it's a bit of a disappointment to not have odyssey skirts (granted, though, I don't think most of my female boffs would wear them. My Tac's wear combat uniforms and the engineers don't wear skirts because ladders and Jefferey's tubes.
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