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Lt. Commander
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# 21
02-14-2010, 11:14 AM
Anyone else sick of Feds claiming Klingons are overpowered, yet are unable to list, with math, what changes should be made to fix the problem?

I think it's because when they start comparing a real Klingon ship to a real Fed ship, they realize how many of the numbers are in their favor.

And while they complain about the turn rate, when was the last time a Fed put a tractor beam on you? They're all over Viral Matrix but none of them use the good old tractor beam anymore, even though it screws us by preventing us from getting our forward cannons on target.


It's really not so much that Klingons are "good" at PvP, it's just that Feds are so bad at it. So few of them seem to be trying to think of ways to counter us. They just use what works in PvE and complain to the developers when it's not as useful in PvP against people who actually carry counters.
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# 22
02-14-2010, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tacoshy View Post
well if i get only close enough to a carrier then i have a lag about 12 seconds. if i see that the enemy is in range then it was in about 12-15 seconds. and in that 12-15 seconds i am alread dead since ages.

and this is not my inet connection i have DSL 25k.
Ah whats DSL 25k? My cable does 20MB? Even 56K modems are faster then your 25k DSL? I don't have lag. Was that 256k but then even my current 3g cell does 1MB at least.
Lt. Commander
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# 23
02-14-2010, 11:16 AM
Let's go ahead and get cloak beefed, severe lacking of Klingons anyhow... Pvp is going to the crapper... Just before this all happens try getting the stupid Feds to group up and actually listen, it took weeks of hard work from numerous Klingons to make our basic strategy a staple... However I see fewer and fewer fed balls... Just Feds flying ahead of their groups and more and more worthless escort ships prior to T4
Lt. Commander
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# 24
02-14-2010, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tacoshy View Post
and this is not my inet connection i have DSL 25k.
This is a draw rate issue, not a connection issue. You should lower your graphics settings, or invest in more RAM.
Lt. Commander
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# 25
02-14-2010, 11:17 AM
There is no PvP at T5, really last time I waited 45 mins to get a queue to pop.
Lt. Commander
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# 26
02-14-2010, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBenz View Post
Wait im worng? oo its just you not wanting to list anything because your a ***got.
Now you're being a bit of a petulant ass.

Honestly it does rather come down to skill a bit. Purely from the standpoint that someone already pointed out. Klingons only have PvP, Federation has a lot of PvE. I've played both sides plenty, and in beta, and have watched the difference in skills and styles.

There's a lot of Fed players that automatically assume what works in PvE will work in PvP, be it skills and *ahem* tactics.

Klingon players KNOW what will work in PvP in very fast order.

Play both sides then come back and give some thoughts on it. There's a lot of Fed players that are just really good at PvP as well. It's just there's a plethora of Klingons that are, because that's all there is.
Lt. Commander
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# 27
02-14-2010, 11:20 AM
Have you considered that being the PVP race of the game that the klingon faction has attracted most of the hard core pvpers and as such at least initially will be the race that wins most of the pvp fights.
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# 28
02-14-2010, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bos22
There is no PvP at T5, really last time I waited 45 mins to get a queue to pop.

Just did about 12 matches in T5 all in a row. Queues were popping almost instantly.
Lt. Commander
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# 29
02-14-2010, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tenikis View Post
Just did about 12 matches in T5 all in a row. Queues were popping almost instantly.
As a klingon - sure.. Queued for 15 mins or so at the moment as a fed.
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# 30
02-14-2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bos22
As a klingon - sure.. Queued for 15 mins or so at the moment as a fed.
Hard to not expect when you have probably 90% of the player base.
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