LMAO thatís funny as hell. I must say I am playing both atm ST:O give me that instant gratification one gets out a new action packed game like ST:O, but Eve's PvP / player driven world just can't be beaten or matched in any other MMORPG; it has staying power and a real extensive end game going on (assuming you like PvP and joining a clan, corps, fleets what ever you wana call um). It has much more scope that what I can see in the long term for ST:O I must say. ST:O end game is very reminiscent of WoW and itís clonesÖ. There is none, once you brake it down to itís bare bones. But eve can be soooo Slow, so I have ST:O to keep me busy on the side.