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Lt. Commander
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# 2
02-18-2010, 11:35 AM
i just wrote a thread about graphics lmao geforce 9 series **** poor omg!! lmao
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# 3
02-21-2010, 02:29 AM
Yea, STO does not like ATI. I can only hope a new patch will fix that
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# 4
02-21-2010, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by odingrey View Post
Yea, STO does not like ATI. I can only hope a new patch will fix that
No doubt ATI will tweak their drivers to get better results, they always do... unless it's a crossfire problem (which it's not, but) in which they will just ignore it like they have Oblivion and Fallout 3.
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# 5
02-22-2010, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by matthmaroo
Sad little fanboi, nobody cares that an old chip massivly over clocked and over priced gets a high score.... YAWN.

Problem is, what score will the nvidia card get on Colin McRae's Dirt 2 on the pc? 0FPS because Nvidia do not have any DX11 part ready. They've only just mastered DX10.1 by forcing an OC's gpu to do a lot of software calculations becuase the hardware can't do it.


Whats next, you going to try and convince us that the PS3 is still faster tahn a PC?
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# 6
02-22-2010, 09:16 AM
woo glad i have the GTX260 but i have the extreme overclocked version from point of view
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# 7
02-22-2010, 12:26 PM
show me a nvidia card that can use this benchmark 2 its fullest, http://unigine.com/download/
nvidia just got pwned.
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# 8
02-22-2010, 12:47 PM
Wow, results like that are usually indicative of driver level problems with a game.

I run STO at the recommended preset with AA at 4x and AF at 8x at 1280x1024 on my 2x 5750 setup and I never drop below 40fps even on 1 card.

Really makes me wonder if those guys were...

A. Using the 10.2 Catalysts that came out the other day.

B. Able to conquer the 3D clock fiasco where ATi cards still aren't clocking properly in 3D (Even in 10.2). I fixed it by making custom overclocking profiles with correct voltage settings (0.990 for low clocks, 1.110 for high clocks) in ATi Tray Tools and then saving those profiles as '2D' and '3D' and 'LP' (Low Power) and then setting them to hotkey combos for easy use (Ctrl+F10,F11, and F12) I can now switch between 137/300,400/900, and 700/1150 and have it stay clocked to what its supposed to be, without having driver restart errors or clocks reverting to different settings mid game.

Although this benchmark seems to point at the tomshardware guys using Catalysts as they are, and not doctoring them up the way I have learned to over the past month. That reason is exactly why right now ATi is in a tight spot. They need to improve their drivers and fix core functions. Not every person has it in them to discover a solution on their own, and right now nVidia drivers work properly without the use of 'user fixes'.

However, if nVidia hadn't had such bad yields on their Fermi and been forced to delay it, they would probably be dealing with driver problems as well. Every new generation of cards has their share of bugs. Hell my brand new 6800GT back in 2004 boasted a Purevideo feature that never even worked properly and was never fixed.
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# 9
02-22-2010, 02:31 PM
Yeah, it's a damn shame, not only do ATI cards run poorly in STO but dynamic lighting still hasn't been fixed to not cause crashes.
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# 10
02-22-2010, 03:10 PM
In fairness that article was written before the 10.2 drivers where out. But then the 196.21 drivers where also not out.

I tried STO on a 5670 with the 10.2 drivers and turning it down some was able to play fine.

Who the heck plays on a 9600 gt? Guess I can't pick on that one I tried it on a 5670. but it seems like any half serious gamer is going to be using something in the 8800/9800/250 or better models.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the gtx 285 a better comparison to the 5850? The 260 is like $100 cheaper than the 5850 and a 285 is maybe $30-$40 more than a 5850.

if your going to have a "shoot out" on a title at least compare apples to apples.

I'm not bashing ATI, cost vs performance they are hard to beat but I do prefer Nvidia.
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