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# 41
12-19-2008, 09:14 AM
Another interesting read, and overall the storyline is intriguing and compelling. I can’t wait for each new installment. It’s especially interesting to read the developing storyline between the Federation and the Klingon Empire.

Initially, I wasn’t too happy with the decision to make the Klingons and Starfleet at odds as opposing factions, but then I started to think I should give it a chance and wait to see how Cryptic handles it. So far it’s intriguing.

It was cool to see the use of the tlhIngan Hol spelling of the Klingon homeworld, spelling it as Qo'noS instead of Kronos. Names of individuals were still in “Federation Standard” forms but even a single use of a tlhIngan Hol spelling was very cool.


Qapla' to Martok!
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# 42 Geo Politique
12-19-2008, 09:39 AM
Yes good points all this.. Worf is vulnerable to the propaganda as an federation leaning personage..its would be difficult for him to remain neutral and he would support Martoks efforts in exileif needed.
The Dominion would redirect without the Founders pushing them.
The Borg would be the Borg. When faced with resistance they attempt ways around the resistance through acquiring tools to defeat the blockage.
Bajor would seek more reparations from Cardassia then their economy could support ala the Allies after WW I..
Klingon remilitarization looks for independent destiny from federation dependence..
Romanian pride and past xenophobic tendency and collapse of central government ability to regulate affairs force more regional Royalist to set up semi autonomy and separate diplomatic survival deals weakening the empire further. as more truths get out the empire can no longer spin the rebellion as defeats mount chaos ensues creating opportunities for freebooters and covert federation expansion,, or a Finlandization or areas by they and Klingon forces.
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# 43
12-19-2008, 11:11 AM
A real joy to see another one of these so soon! Thanks, Kestrel!

And the Klingons got a bigger piece of the story this time, so I expect there will be a little less grumbling and bat'leth sharpening among the head-ridge fans this time out.

The Cardassians -- this is definitely interesting to me. Given that the Star Trek Online galaxy is set to divide along Federation/Klingon factional lines, I continue to wonder where the post-war Cardassians will fall.

Personally, I think they would, for all their strong differences, do better among the consciously-accomodating Federation than among the follow-orders-or-die Klingons. Two races known for arrogance and intractability might make for too fragile an alliance. But I suspect that's just my own opinion ...

The Romulans? As ever, I expect they will end up on only one side -- their own. First expansion pack for the game, to be certain.

Anyway, thanks again for the look. It's all well done and great fun, and I look forward to more.

KOS
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# 44
12-19-2008, 12:25 PM
Really enjoyed reading the latest installment to the timeline.
Keep up the good work guys.
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# 45
12-19-2008, 01:21 PM
Thumbs WAY up!!!
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# 46
12-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Quote:
In legal matters, Rear Admiral James Bennett of the Starfleet Judge Advocate General’s office rules that the “Data Decision,” referenced in The Doctor’s legal arguments to keep the mobile emitter, is too narrow to be used in this case. Bennett rules that the precedent can only be applied to prove that The Doctor is not the property of Starfleet, and not to decide whether or not he is a sentient being. The Doctor’s counsel appeals the decision, and analysts predict that the case will continue for some time.

The Soong Foundation, a group affiliated with the Daystrom Institute and dedicated to promoting the rights of artificial life forms, announces that it is beginning research to create a mobile holographic emitter of its own design, with the hopes that the technology can be adapted for civilian use.
To me, this is a cool way to allow Holographic player characters, with the stipulation that the Soong Foundation's version of the mobile holographic emitter won't be as good as the 31st Century one, thereby bringing game balance to the characters without being 'heavy-handed' about it.

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# 47
12-19-2008, 03:42 PM
Some thoughts....

1. Thanks for the update! It's obviously a useful marketing tool, but clearly it's also fun for the writer and for us as readers.

2. As others have said, the quality of the writing here is excellent. The key pieces of the whole arc from 2380 to 2409 must already have been defined; these "Path" entries are just filling in the gaps. But that still calls for imagination and skill. It's very well done.

3. This last is going to sound like a criticism, but it's not intended in a negative way.

It's just this: I happen to enjoy the "grand sweep" style of history writing. (Seriously; Carroll Quigley's The Evolution of Civilizations is one of the three greatest books I've ever read... and I've read a lot of books.)

But the thing that occurs to me is that this isn't how history progresses in Star Trek. Because Star Trek was episodic TV and several movies that featured a few specific characters, those characters wound up saving the Federation (or otherwise significantly impacting the course of history in our part of the Milky Way Galaxy) a remarkable number of times. Individuals in Star Trek have the power to make a real difference. That's one of the things that defines Star Trek, that gives it its unique value as an entertainment property.

What I find curious is that there's very little evidence of this "great person" form of history happening in the various Path entries. Instead, the reading we're getting here seems focused more on often-nameless social forces contending like waves pushing and pulling at the sand on a beach -- they'll change the shape of the coastline eventually, but there's not much drama in the process.

To summarize:
Tal'aura, Tomalak and Donatra appear to have a stalemate in Romulan space. That may change, but likely only as a fleet- or society-wide shift in the balance of power there.

Spock is back with the Unificationists, but apparently not accomplishing much after the Federation Council's refusal to act. (The refusal by Councilor T'Los in 2382 to support Unification might ultimately prove to be a fateful decision, but a failure to act, while perhaps defensible within the storyline, is definitely not dramatic in the style of Star Trek's usual protagonists.)

Martok is hanging on to his position, but we can be pretty confident that he and those others who favor a détente with the Federation are doomed. So as an individual, it appears that Martok will not be a factor in Klingon history. The "hardliners" win, but we don't (yet) know who leads them and how.

And what of Miral Paris? It was suggested in Perpetual's version of Star Trek Online that Miral Paris would emerge as a leader within the Klingon civilization capable of creating a pro-Federation bloc. If Cryptic has similar intentions regarding her, at what point will she display the kinds of unexpected actions that mark her for future greatness?

Cardassians, meanwhile, still reeling from the psychic shock of their civilization's failures in the Dominion War, push and shove between military and religious solutions. Again, this is presented as clashes between cultural forces, rather than as the kind of delicately balanced situation that could be tipped by a single individual into a history-defining course.

Even the Doctor's situation remains unresolved; he sets no precedents but is merely a cork bobbing on the waves of the Federation legal system.
As I said, I happen to enjoy the Big Picture approach to history-telling. I agree that history can usefully be viewed from the 40,000-foot level. But is that really the right approach given how we've seen Star Trek work, with its extremely individualistic interpretation of why things happen in one way and not another?

For example, where's the Enterprise? In -- what, three, four years -- it hasn't already saved the Federation a dozen times over, to the point of meriting at least one mention in the post-Nemesis history revealed so far?

Have Captain Riker and the crew of the Titan not found and turned back even a single Threat to the Federation's Very Existence? (They may have done so in the books I haven't read, but how have they affected history in the "Path to 2409"?)

And can we really believe that Reg Barclay hasn't stumbled onto some new technological surprise that changes lives in a real and tangible way?

...

Again, I'm truly not making these comments in a negative way. I personally have no problem with seeing the Path to 2409 presented in a big-picture way. I actually admire the writer's ability to present the arc of affairs in such an objective way; not everyone has that talent.

The only thing is... is that good Star Trek? Is history without individual heroes and villains really the most dramatic, the most "engaging" way to grab people's attention and pull them into the unique world and story of Star Trek?

--Flatfingers
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# 48
12-19-2008, 03:49 PM
Good to see the Empire starting to split with the Federation.
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# 49
12-19-2008, 04:30 PM
Once again great job
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# 50
12-19-2008, 06:15 PM
Can't wait till the next year!!!!!
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