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# 11
03-01-2010, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by UnknownXV View Post
Err, I don't know what card you're using, but since the end of OB, performance has gotten worse, especially on ground missions, shadows and textures still flicker, and dynamic lighting/post processing still cause crashes.
I'm using a pair of Radeon 5870's in CrossfireX setup, exactly as listed in my sig, and while CrossfireX itself doesn't seem supported yet by STO, Dynamic Lighting is working fine with ZERO crashes for me since moving to Cat 10.2.

The "shadows flicker" thing is the only remaining bug. No textures ever flicker, but then I use SSAA, not default MSAA like you may be.

Performance has measurably gotten better since end of OB on both my dual 5870 rig and on my single 4870 with only 512mb vram on it. Both perform much more smoothly. The only thing off is shadows, since lighting on high covers proper shading on your ship itself.
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# 12
03-01-2010, 01:20 PM
Sorry, but overall that's a weak review .. one of the weakest I have seen actually.

It's very narrow. It provides generalizations about the gameplay but no specifics. It leaves me wondering if the writer played the game for more than 15 minutes.
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# 13
03-01-2010, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SpockOn
Sorry, but overall that's a weak review .. one of the weakest I have seen actually.

It's very narrow. It provides generalizations about the gameplay but no specifics. It leaves me wondering if the writer played the game for more than 15 minutes.
It was really more of a benchmark feature than a game review.
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# 14
03-01-2010, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by UnknownXV View Post
Err, I don't know what card you're using, but since the end of OB, performance has gotten worse, especially on ground missions, shadows and textures still flicker, and dynamic lighting/post processing still cause crashes.
Funny thing for some of you then, because over on Rage3D forums, I'm not the only one that 10.2 fixed DL/PP crashes for.
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# 15
03-02-2010, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by the_moshpit View Post
At this moment in time, my recommendation for top performing systems is an Intel/AMD mix, Intel CPU (i5/i7) with AMD 5800 series GPU.
Just did exactly this. My old system was a Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 on an Asus P5Q Pro motherboard, modestly overclocked to 2.8GHz, and a nVidia 8800GT video card. Whenever I fired up STO the fan on the nVidia kicked in at full speed which made for a loud system as well as 20-25fps performance.

Over the weekend I overhauled my system and installed a Core i7-860, Asus P7P55D EVO mobo, and ATI Radeon 5850HD overclocked to 765MHz - WOW, what a difference. Now running STO in 1920x1200 fullscreen with all graphics settings maxed out and getting 80+ fps, AND the fan on the video card still runs at idle...
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# 16
03-02-2010, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by the_moshpit View Post
To be honest, I'm unsure why with an AMD system you'd be preferenced towards Nvidia when AMD makes faster graphics right now as well. I'm less then fond of Nvidia at the moment due to how far behind they are on current generation hardware. They are over half a year late with the new generation and even after they release it, it's going to be months before they're even available. Even if your upgrade puts you in an Intel setup like mine, I still heartily recommend AMD Radeon 5800 series over anything Nvidia has to offer.

Nvidia is also suffering shortages of last generation hardware as well, leading to higher prices for lower performance. This is a bad time to be an Nvidia fan.
AMD/ATI has historically had notoriously bad drivers on any system other than Windows. That is why I choose NVIDIA. I use Windows to play games, and Linux for everything else.
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# 17
03-02-2010, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by the_moshpit View Post
Tom's Hardware Guide has done up a pretty good review of STO:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...line,2553.html

Seems the reviewer enjoyed his time in STO and had some very positive things to say about it. The nice thing about this review, as opposed to many we've seen already, is that performance is actually tested and charted quite nicely for both Nvidia and ATI hardware. The only downside being that the benchmarking was done at the end of Open Beta, and so is not very properly representative of current game performance since recent patches and newer drivers have come out and improved graphics performance significantly since then.

I can say from personal experience that the ATI scores are on the lower side of where they should be now, but as I said before, these tests was run before official launch so don't reflect current performance numbers.
Fanboi's are morons. You will belittle a professional reviewer with a journalism degree, but then proceed to tout a blog as a credible review. GTFO
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# 18
03-02-2010, 03:59 PM
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AMD/ATI has historically had notoriously bad drivers on any system other than Windows. That is why I choose NVIDIA. I use Windows to play games, and Linux for everything else.
Historically, yes, I would agree, AMD's past Linux drivers were less then steller. But that is history. AMD Linux drivers have been rock solid for over a year now, not to mention open sourced and third party versions are now available.

But sticking with Nvidia for Linux, just out of habit, is a safe bet. Understood.
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# 19
03-02-2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SpockOn
Sorry, but overall that's a weak review .. one of the weakest I have seen actually.

It's very narrow. It provides generalizations about the gameplay but no specifics. It leaves me wondering if the writer played the game for more than 15 minutes.
I completely agree, notice the reviewer's screenshots indicate hes only a LT, wonder if it would be the same coming from an Admiral (Doubtful). I was semi-satisfied as well in the first 5 days i was playing.
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