OMG, I might be tired but this... this was damn good.

How about putting them out of our misery tho? Is that allowed? I mean, there is no possible way these...things...can evolve to any semblance of sentience, is there?

The BOTTOM line huh? No the bottom line is you have your opinion and I have mine. But the real bottom line is I always will spend less get more when it comes to MMO's and most things because I have been on Earth long enough to see the patterns and take advantage of them when the situation is right!

So put that in your opinion pipe and smoke it while I LMAO@U

There are other places in the forums to talk about those things. By posting here, you're grouping your opinion with mine, and making me appear to be among those who only want to harp on the game. Would I like to see the game improve? Yes. But that's an entirely separate matter. This is about fair treatment for early adopters.

This thread is one of many duplicate threads regarding this matter. We do value your feedback, so, while we are closing duplicate threads regarding this matter, we have also opened a discussion thread here.

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Ok, then you don't blame Cryptic. I can respect that. However others see it differently from you for whatever reason. You don't have to agree with it, but you shouldn't berate them for it.

I simply do not understand how anyone actually paid to do a job in Marketing couldn't have grasped the likely outcome of this promotion. I know for certain that those who work in our Marketing department would have.

So the US sales were a bit lower than you expected. I understand that's irritating and you'd like it to improve, but consider the ramifications of a promotion, with massive free game time thrown in, less than a month after release.

First and foremost it sends the message to the entire world that the game is in real serious trouble. You're having to give away loads of free time in an effort to get anyone to subscribe. Coupled with negative reviews, your single promotion might just have doomed this game despite its actual excellence. I came to the forums first to get a real feel for the game before I bought it, as I consider most reviews of MMOs to spend too much time comparing it to World of ******** to give me any real information. Imagine what potential customers are finding here now.

Secondly, and intimately related, this kind of promotion is a real kick in the teeth for the hard work and dedication of those who took the time and trouble to beta test, bug report, and do all the good works that helped shape the game into what it is a month after release. Those fans, those people who took that leap of faith that Cryptic had made a great game, are what enabled this game to get where it is today. I'd not have even bothered subscribing had I not read some of what those people had posted (I count myself unusual in that I tend to filter out the majority of the whiny posts). There's also that minor matter of community/customer loyalty...

STO has great potential. Please don't screw that up for a few dollars more now; you are only hurting the long term success of this game, and gamers can have long memories. I have never forgiven NCSoft for what they did to certain games, and I can assure you I'd remember the same if Atari ended up dooming this game for short term greed.

So you're old and bitter. I get it. Darn society and their lack of being like you.

I have one question on the issue. Are you going to extend the subs for those who bought the game apon release? And if not why do you value us less than the new subs. If you can give me a good reason for shafting us i will keep my sub if not I might as well go by wow or something else to take my money. and tell everyone I know not to waste their money on STO they will Screw you with out KY. Now why are you shafting us again.

OF course it is about entitlement. If you didn't feel entitled to what this sale offers then it doesn't matter weather it exists or not. It is only a "slap in the face" if you feel entitled to the 60 days or $10 off. You can feel cheated all you want. It doesn't mean you were. It is nobodies fault that your ability to predict the future failed you.

You purchased this game fully knowing what benefits it would contain. The ability to pay for a subscription and 30 days free. That does not give you some inherent right to anything else nor does it initiate some sort of binding contract with Atari or any other retail provider to never change what they offer. Atari changed the price and provided additional promotional incentives. How the HELL are you feeling cheated if you didn't feel entitled to this lower price and free time?

What next? Are we going to jump down Cryptics throat if Steam decides to give a special bundle pack of STO and Star Trek DAC? Will you all be crying about not receiving your free game then?