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I posted in general gameplay but scrolled down and saw I should post a pvp issue in this area. My concern is with a new trend that need an immediate fix.

Science is officially an overpowered God class now. I'm going to give this cheese away so hopefully those that want to use it will **** enough people off that Cryptic will nerf the ultimate "I WIN" combo.

Every now and then Iíve come across a fed premade of all science which picks separate targets each and then fires subnucleonic beam followed by viral matrix. The whole klingon team is then disabled for 15 seconds from being able to use counters or any skills by subnucleonic beam, and followed by viral matrix disables you completely.

Again, the subnucleionic beam prevents you from using a counter so followed by viral matrix you are dead. Knowing this now if anyone wants a premade God team, have all science officers in cloak picking separate targets, fire subnucleonic beam followed by viral matrix and you win, free kills YAY!

I hope the Klingons start using this strategy as much as the feds have to get this damn overpower pvp game breaking combo NERFED! An all science team klingon premade would be an undefeatable GOD TEAM with this strategy. I'm a science officer myself and I want it nerfed, its cheesy as hell. Subnucleonic beam has no counter so I see the solution here as providing a counter to subnucleonic beam.
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# 2
03-02-2010, 03:35 PM
why waste slots for VM
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# 3
03-02-2010, 03:37 PM
I want to see the all science fed team meet and an all science klingon team and then they all subnuc + VM each other and sit there saying now what? It would be as hillarious as KVK with everyone cloaked waiting for someone to volunteer to end the stale mate.

K'rapok Cptn KDF
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# 4
03-02-2010, 03:39 PM
I'm not sure, but I think the science buff granted by the lowly Science Team I will make you invulnerable to Subnucleonic Beam. Anyway, I see Klingons using it all the time (I'm SNBed at least once in every match) so don't make this into a Fed issue. Klingons do this AND they cloak.

Edit: Also, you may not be aware of this, but SNB has a 90-degree forward firing arc. So does Viral Matrix. So if you attack us from behind (which you are more than able to do thanks to your cloak, although WE can't), we can't use either ability. You can VM us but we can't VM you. How's that for unfair?
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# 5
03-02-2010, 03:45 PM
Lol blame the feds, cruisers and escorts are more common than science. In my pov.
They should nerf feedback pulse viral matrix sub beam. As fed i get hit by that loads of time every match. Its on both sides.
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# 6
03-02-2010, 03:50 PM
I don't worry about those silly trick abilities. A nerf will come if the ability is abused , then those who abused it will be fodder for those who learned to play without them. Ultimately I have rarely seen those used at t4 , so far its still guns and heals that win the day.

K'rapok Cptn KDF
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# 7
03-02-2010, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by albs477 View Post
I want to see the all science fed team meet and an all science klingon team and then they all subnuc + VM each other and sit there saying now what? It would be as hillarious as KVK with everyone cloaked waiting for someone to volunteer to end the stale mate.

K'rapok Cptn KDF
Klingon all science premade wins with the advantage of first strike, then recloak and repeat. An all science premade with SNB followed by VM on separate targets, instant win, recloak and repeat. I'm making one now since i saw the feds use it. And yes I hate it but hell if I use it and cause enough QQ, it will be nerfed.
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# 8
03-02-2010, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kratos23 View Post
Klingon all science premade wins with the advantage of first strike, then recloak and repeat. An all science premade with SNB followed by VM on separate targets, instant win, recloak and repeat. I'm making one now since i saw the feds use it. And yes I hate it but hell if I use it and cause enough QQ, it will be nerfed.
Since you seem to be admitting that Klingons have an advantage anyway with first strike, recloak and repeat, maybe I and the other Feds ought to just QQ until they take your cloaking devices away from you. How's that?

Neither SNB and VM are any danger to you if you just attack from behind instead of rushing at your enemy head-on. If you do that, then you can SNB+VM the Fed, but the Fed cannot SNB+VM you. So you have all the advantage and yet you're still QQing. That seems to be pretty typical of the Klingon players on this forum.
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# 9
03-02-2010, 04:04 PM
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Since you seem to be admitting that Klingons have an advantage anyway with first strike, recloak and repeat, maybe I and the other Feds will just QQ until they take your cloaking devices away from you. How's that?
Ok, then give us as many ships, shields, and science vessles as you have. Cloak only makes SNB followed by VM in an all science premade insane.
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# 10
03-02-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kratos23 View Post
Ok, then give us as many ships, shields, and science vessles as you have. Cloak only makes SNB followed by VM in an all science premade insane.
What difference does it make in a PVP how many ship types we have? And what difference does it make how many science vessels we have if you're just going to QQ until the science abilities are nerfed?
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