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Lt. Commander
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When I read through the Starship Engineering skill tree, outside of the few skills that affect actual ship stats, is there any reason for a non-engineering main to invest here? I mean, do these skills have an impact on engineer BO abilities? I know the Startship Operations tree affects science BO abilities, but that seems to be because it affects an actual measurable statistic like Deflector Field or Sensors.
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# 2
03-04-2010, 07:27 PM
Yes, pretty much every ability in the Engineering skill tree will affect at least 1 Engineering bridge officer ability. Most of those abilities will list the skills that affect them when you look at them in your ability screen. There are abilities that have measurable effects (such as Emergency Power to <System> abilities).
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# 3
03-04-2010, 09:20 PM
Here's a partial list showing which skills modify which abilities (among other things).

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...cG0l5gqQ&hl=en

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# 4
03-05-2010, 09:54 AM
thanks for the spreadsheet link.

so let me just clarify: if I want to improve my shields, do I put skillpoints in them, or is that only helpful if I have a BO with the appropriate skill?
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# 5
03-05-2010, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Greeen
thanks for the spreadsheet link.

so let me just clarify: if I want to improve my shields, do I put skillpoints in them, or is that only helpful if I have a BO with the appropriate skill?
If you put points into Starship Shield Efficiency, then you will receive some bonus power to your shields if they are below 60 power (I think, that may or may not be the correct number).

If you put points into Starship Shield Performance or Starship Shield Maintenance, that may improve your base shields in addition to any BO powers they modify. I'm not entirely sure though, and I can't log in to look at the skills and check.
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# 6
03-05-2010, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LUE_The6BillionKgMan
If you put points into Starship Shield Efficiency, then you will receive some bonus power to your shields if they are below 60 power (I think, that may or may not be the correct number).

If you put points into Starship Shield Performance or Starship Shield Maintenance, that may improve your base shields in addition to any BO powers they modify. I'm not entirely sure though, and I can't log in to look at the skills and check.
thanks a million!
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# 7
03-05-2010, 11:12 AM
Yea...some of the descriptions seems very vague with some siting baseline increases and some only affecting "abilities"...I just wish that as a tac officer I could max out engineering training to be able to train my engineering BO's.
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# 8
03-05-2010, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LUE_The6BillionKgMan
If you put points into Starship Shield Performance or Starship Shield Maintenance, that may improve your base shields in addition to any BO powers they modify. I'm not entirely sure though, and I can't log in to look at the skills and check.
What is does is increase the 'recharge' rate of your shields. Say your shields have a recharge rate of 100 every 6 seconds. With 50% power to shields that lowers the recharge to 50 every 6 seconds. If you train Starship Shield Maintenance then you can increase the recharge rate to say 55% instead of 50%. So you would get a recharge rate of 55 evey 6 seconds. Add Starship Shield Performance and you could get that up to 62%, etc, etc.

It doesnt effect your shield strength and it has no effect when you have 100% power to shields. Engines and Auxillary work similiarly.
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# 9
03-05-2010, 11:17 AM
I thought research had been conducted that says this isn't accurate; at 50 shield power, you get 100% of the item tooltip regen, at 100 shield power you get 3x the item tooltip, and at 25 power you get 0 regen. For that matter, I'm pretty sure it's been determined that anything with a power relation is standard at 50 power and increases/decreases in potential from there.
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# 10
03-05-2010, 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greeen
thanks for the spreadsheet link.

so let me just clarify: if I want to improve my shields, do I put skillpoints in them, or is that only helpful if I have a BO with the appropriate skill?
Outside of BO skills, the only things that affects how well subsystems perform at the base equipment, consoles and power settings. Spending points on Starship Shields Maintenance will not improve your Shields. Those captain skills improves you BO's skills. The place where Captain skills can improve subsystem directly are power skills (and traits).

Starship Warp Core Training (and Warp Core Theorist trait) will give a power settings bonus to subsystems at lower power settings (i.e. less then 75). The lower the setting, the higher the bonus. Subsystem Efficiency skills likewise will give a power setting bonus like Warp Core Training does. The Subsystem Performance skills give a straight power setting bonus regards of power setting (+1 /rank).

All of the above skills will improve your power settings in various ways and increase how well you subsystems work. TL;DR More Power == More Better subsystem. IF you want to know more about the skills, read the Ship Power guide liked in my sig below.
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