Thankyou for the positive replies thus far. I will freely admit that i made my post in a fit of frustration, but i felt it had to be said.
I came from ******** and i have come to really hate nerf calls. I have several classes there and all have, at one time or other, been overnerfed, clumsily changed by devs or otherwise damaged in the name of balance. I have often tried telling players to think that one day, the nerf bat will come for them, but still they encourage devs to nerf others.
I have seen a worrying trend coming here, it comes in these forms.
1. Something is effective, or powerful, this calls for nerf responses.
2. Something is different or new, this calls for nerf responses.
3. Something requires a ship to use counters or to reduce dps by using a choice of attacks (eg, AOE)....nerf calls etc.
I can, however, understand these responses. However, the one that really concerns me is this one.
4. A Klingon did it, so it has to be taken away or stopped.
In a game like ********, for example, there are two large, effectively equal factions. In STO, this is radically far from being the case, to the point where one side is already dieing out.
It frustrated me no end that there are people not appreciating that any more damage to the Klingon side and there will be no klingons left and no pvp at all
It seems that anything cool the Klingons have, like carriers, is fair game to be attacked and that really frightens me. This is why i urge players calling for nerfs or even players thinking the Klingons are equal in terms of gameplay, to try one for themselves before they make posts on these forums.
We are battered enough as it is without having to defend ourselves here.
There are no classes here.
Your wow buddies are all trying to ruin what is good and right with this game..
You should try it, then maybe you'll become better at pvp. As to get to BG5 you will probably have about 40 hours pvp experience under your belt.
Ah, this post assumes that I need to get better at pvp... which I don't. I hate exploration, and when I don't have story advancing quests, I play pvp. Albeit, not as much pvp as klinks have to, but more than your average Fed as evidenced by me being at the top of the Fed stack for damage/healing after almost every game.
My flat response was addressing the OP's thread title. And that was... No. Meaning I don't have to level a klink to gain some sort of appreciation for how hard you have it, and I'm not calling for a klink nerf. I just said... no.
Ummmm.... "Note to Feds, try to level a klingon yourself....
Fine by me, song long as you dont feel the need to start suggestion changes to klingon gameplay. I just feel that its not possible to understand what a klingon player goes through until you actually become one.
I also feel that PvP supporters should do their bit to promote pvp by making Klingons and helping the faction develop. As it is too many fed players expect klingons to provide them with pvp *and* to endure a remarkably frustrating levelling up process to do it.
Before i made my Klingon, i was on my RA 5 and i looked at the pvp queue, i saw this.
Space Salvage Large PvP Map - Players in Queue:
Federation 262 - Klingon 4
I could just queue with my RA 5 and magically hope it got better *or* i could roll and level a Klingon, to boost that lower number and to help the struggling faction. That is what i did and i call on all Fed pvp fans to do the same. You need to work to make pvp in this game happen and that means rolling Klink characters.
Feds want PvP...gonna have to encourgae Cryptic to make Klingons more fun more attractive to play.
First thing, flesh them out. They need to have just as much PvE content as Feds.
Crippling to Klingons.
PvP mostly only is what they have. Are thier actuall exploration missions? Yes if your level 53.. did Iget that right?
Hey buddy, got a spare E-Cred?
See all that fancy equipment and weps on the AH... where ya think they come from? FED Players... oh.. didn't notice that? Oh yes.. fed get some very cool gear early on as PvE rewards. (I forget what it was called but its this Mk V ship shield with about close to 8k strength. I didn't even take it off my fed players ship till i got the toon to using Mk VIII level gear.. Bunch of other stuff like that.)
So let the jury be in.
People who are playing Klingon are doing it because they WANT to play klingon. Not because its fun, or even particularly easy.
Thats why the members of KBF play klingon. We've been Klingon players since 1999 when the game Star Fleet Command came out. 8 Years. We're used to a bit more challenging tactical game play that wasn't dependent apon some "magic gear" We know what WE want. So ok, we got trek in MMO land now. The tactical game play is ok... but if we gotta do this just to be feddy target practice?
It would be one thing if the sides were equal but different in capability but they are not. It is a major advantage to the fed player being able to mine PvE gear, and pick up gear for exploration badges, and get gear from PvP badges... AND craft gear.
(though I haven't explored that all that much and not sure if its worth the bother except when I have nothing better to do Please NOTE that Klingons don't have a Memory Alpha)
Of course there is PvP badges for the Klingon. And you get 'em for just showing up... You get more if you win. If you can win. Big IF.
Of course there not alot of Klingons.. see above for reason. I do know this. No matter what they give to the Fed Players, other player races are needed for this game to take off. I consider the game to have been realeased far to early. Bugs, if they are fixed in a timely manner players can live with.
Play balance is not the question. Without a balance between player opportunities you'll never have it. Right now STO does not have this. More content.. No. Balanced level of content yes.
TO THE DEVS: Finish the Klingons FIRST! Then give us more content.
Sometimes, I think I should have been a Klingon. (or more of a Klingon, I love my Fed account, my ship, my toon, everything, it's all set up perfectly for me)
I LOVE pvp, everything I currently have equipment-wise (except my tribble) is from pvp marks. I have never done a defend the sector block quest and I do believe I've done less than three "patrol" quests. I simply pvp, been pvping since t2.
I don't think Klingons are overpowered, throw me a Carrier, I'll smite it.
Cloak and come behind me BOP, I'll be ready to tractor you and jam your sensors, turn around and smite you too right down the torpedo tube!
Throw me not one, but TWO klingon cruisers, I'll tank them and destroy them as I did earlier today in pvp in the briar patch. Poor cruisers could barely get through the shields of an escort and when they did, I have a hull resistance ABOVE 40%.
I have done over 450,000 damage in a pvp match. Without. Dying.
I have been a part of 15 to 0 wins against pre-teamed klingons.
I may not be a Klingon, but in my heart and in my experiences, I might as well be a Klingon. I'm a pvp veteran on the Fed side! Love ground pvp too.
I love my ship
Carrier are not op
Cloak is a viable strategy and not op
gloaty gloat gloat about how klings are not op