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# 11
03-13-2010, 10:20 AM
Aside for queing and campersI can't support your other points. Level spread doesn't affect PvP a bit for me. On the ground I was 1st last night on my science officer who just hit Commander 1 9/10 times. In space it doesn't affect me either. The damage bonus is miserable across 10 levels. We all use the same equipment during those 10 levels, so I don't see a problem there. If SW is not tolerated by your PC, que in planetoid ?
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# 12
03-13-2010, 12:09 PM
horrible topic, nothing but qq about getting his rear end handed to'em.


by the way where does the "K" at the end of the slur Klink come from? I recall Klingon...I don't see any K at the center of Klingon, so where does this K come into play? Fed...Federation....makes sense...Klink...Klingon...wtf?
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# 13 Agreed FvK PvP is Flawed
03-13-2010, 12:55 PM
Lately, I have seen nothing but Klingon victory's...I don't mean just victory. I am talking about NO KILLS on the Federation side. So I asked my self, why.

I think it has a lot to do with cannons being allowed on all ships for the Klingon's. They have all the power of the larger ships, and the fire power of an escort. I am maxed out on all Ship equipment yet I cannot do ANY damage to their shields, but my shields are gone in a matter of seconds...and it is because of DUAL CANNONS UP FRONT ON A BATTLESHIP.
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# 14
03-13-2010, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by aesman
Lately, I have seen nothing but Klingon victory's...I don't mean just victory. I am talking about NO KILLS on the Federation side. So I asked my self, why.

I think it has a lot to do with cannons being allowed on all ships for the Klingon's. They have all the power of the larger ships, and the fire power of an escort. I am maxed out on all Ship equipment yet I cannot do ANY damage to their shields, but my shields are gone in a matter of seconds...and it is because of DUAL CANNONS UP FRONT ON A BATTLESHIP.
Honestly I have Fed RA Engie and leveld him in PvP ALONE and it has nothing to do with one side having more "power" or klingons getting cannons. The truth is that in order for Feds to win they have to be SMART. This is just not L2P because you can be a fine player on your own but if you don't support who you need to support and at the right time you will lose in any fight. Klingons advantage is that they really don't need to be group organized to be moderately successful because they get to attack on their own terms most of the time. However, against good groups Klingons only chance is to be organized.

I led, and was led, in fed groups into dozens of consecutive victories against Klingons in all tiers. I only Puged I was not in a fleet, nor did I use vent. At most, on occasion, I found a group that worked well together, but it never lasted that long. The thing is if you play wrong as a fed, if you do silly things (and one idiot on your team can do this to you) your going to lose and your going to lose bad. Most battles have a tipping point and if you cross it too early its all over for you.

There are Fed groups that are all but unstoppable out there, believe me. There is more skill to this game than people give it credit (save for SNB spammers and their 32 seconds stuns).

It's is harder for feds in the aspect that they usually need to be more organized to win. But once organized they have just as much chance, if not more, than the Klingons do. Feds just have to REALY play as a team. And the facts are most of them don't.

The game is not unbalanced. It has bugs and a few powers (SNB in particular) that are over the top.That is it.
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# 15
03-13-2010, 02:46 PM
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I haven't seen one improvement in PvP since the OB. You're focusing on new content too much! PvP is currently so unbalanced and crappy that, the only reason I can think of for that situation is that you Cryptic, have never played it on Live server, with other players. Just make yourself a Cp5 and join any pvp enGANKment, so you'll see.
Typical f u c k u p s are (first two are major game breakers for me):
  1. FvK / 5 vs 5-10, where most Klinks are +1 to +9 and one lonely -1, and all feds are getting their asses kicked
  2. FvK / 1 vs 1 (listed), happening to be 5 vs 10 again
  3. Solar Wind is so heavy on GPU that it's unplayable (it always was)
  4. Campers should never ever get any rewards
  5. Allowed Rank range is too wide, that pt.1 happens almost always, make it +- 1
  6. more issues reported since OB, and never fixed - read forums.

Geez.
This guy is so out to lunch I don't even know were to start.
FIRST - YES! lets make every PVP match have ONLY players 1-2 levels away. THEN don't let the game start until there are 5 ready per side. Great Idea !
Result = 3 hour Q times and massive uproar on the forums about ridiculously slow Q items and slow leveling. Well Thought out.

SECOND - Yes remove any visually impelling pvp maps - In fact lets just make every map 100% dead open space to reward those cheap buggers who are trying to play a new MMO on an old crappy computer.
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# 16
03-13-2010, 03:56 PM
If you would, support my ground PvP issues thread here.
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# 17
03-13-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Warbirdd View Post
SECOND - Yes remove any visually impelling pvp maps - In fact lets just make every map 100% dead open space to reward those cheap buggers who are trying to play a new MMO on an old crappy computer.
Well, my specs are well beyond RECOMMENDED specs, and this particular map gives me only 20fps, without any special effects enabled, so I have right to complain. It's well above 35-60 fps on the rest of the maps, and anywhere else in the game.
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# 18
03-13-2010, 04:40 PM
Maybe it's just me, but the klingons winning more makes a bit of sense if you consider that it's the only way to level a klingon... so logically the majority of them are gonna be more experienced at pvp, on the fed side pvp is something you can do, but don't have to, so learning how to pvp well isn't very important overall, it's a must for a klingon. The imbalance is less to do with ships and more to do with the amount of time each side has to spend on pvp to advance.
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# 19
03-13-2010, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by phlyer View Post
Maybe it's just me, but the klingons winning more makes a bit of sense if you consider that it's the only way to level a klingon... so logically the majority of them are gonna be more experienced at pvp, on the fed side pvp is something you can do, but don't have to, so learning how to pvp well isn't very important overall, it's a must for a klingon. The imbalance is less to do with ships and more to do with the amount of time each side has to spend on pvp to advance.
Well said !

I played on both sides, and I now only PvP Klingon because on average you'll see more group invites and basic tactics than Fed side... I'll say my Klingon ship dies quicker than my fed ship under combined fire by the way, however Klingons allies will sometimes HEAL and will focuss on your attacker next - amazing overbalanced gameplay actual teamwork provides (which some players appear to believe means we have magic unkillable ships)!

My PC spec is over 5 years old and I have yet to run a map I lag on - however perhaps an ability to turn more effects off may be an option to support those folks with PCs that (for whatever reason) don't run so well - but please don't just go with empty space - having objects folks hide behind adds to PvP.
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# 20
03-13-2010, 05:14 PM
The bottomline is that PvP is unbalanced. You look at the kill/death ratio at the end of each match and it is clear as day. You can't have everybody on oneside scoring 15 kills each while the other side is barely getting 2 kills each and say it is balanced. Why is it so? could be many reasons, buit all I know is that I want Cryptic to fix it.

Call me selfish, but I want to have matches where it is tight and close. I want to have long drawn out battles. I want to leave the arenas saying to myself, wow that was fun. I liked the way this or that happened. I enjoy the desperate struggle between two sides where no one knows how it will end until we see it all through.

I find PvP on the Fed side futile and on the Klingon side boring.
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