This weekend I was several times blamed for cheating. This is unfair and totally incorrect. I have a science klingon toon called Tigerpfoetchen and I wear only stuff what you can get from PvP medals.

I started klingon side as soon as I was able to do this (lvl6) and because of there is (nearly) no PvE content for klingons I've been in ground battles over and over again. And it was successfull in 90% at all.

I am almost happy with ground pvp. Just two small often discussed issues I would change.

1. fix the map at Cruiser near the bridge where you always run into a black hole
2. remove the possibility to permanent stunt/hold over and over again.

But this is not the content for this thread. I just wanna tell everybody, that I am not cheating. I even not know how to. We did very well this weekend. I am very proud especially on two situations. One on saturday where 4 Klingon survived a spawn camping of 5 Feds (all feds had to push on "Respawn" none of us) and the other one on sunday where me and another science (Acoy I believe) won against 5 Feds 40:18. Again: 2:5 and 40:18 ! That was a crasy run, I loved it. To my shame I didn't took a screen shot.

So the main reason in my oppinion is: Klingons aren't overpowered. Feds just dont know how to play PvP. They hang around doing PvE and think PvP is as easy as killing NPCs. And this is totally wrong. If you want to succeed in PvP you have to know at least some circumstances:

Know your map: Don't run directly into the enemy and start firing until you or your opponent is down. Know the sideways (especially in Ghostship) use flanking bonus as often as possible.

Regroup but not to much: If your party is spreaded come together and stay close. But if you run into the enemy, spread out to avoid AOE effects. We often run into Fed groups which all knee at the same spot, easy targets for AOE. We split up right flank, left flank and they go down in once.

I dont wanna disclose all my secret of success, but I want to have some good fights again. There were a few runs 5:5 or 4:5 which were really tough and took long time. If Feds are playing together and know what to do, than they are as good as klingons are. So it is not a matter of imbalance, it's just a matter of teamplay.

CU Folks in Ground PvP
Tigerpfoetchen

Don't worry about it, MMO drama is common and always someone calling someone a cheater.

Well except for me, I call people exploiters (when the shoe fits).

Don't let it bother you.

Like in primitive cultures; when something happens that can't be explained it's either:
- God
- Spirits
- Aliens
- whatever silly thing; but NOT something normal that people can't understand yet.

In PvP if they can't explain it:
- you're OP
- you cheat
- whatever silly thing; but NOT their lack of understanding of the game mechanics, or basic counters...

Or if we take chess... a newb will say:

- White is OP... they have an unfair advantage; they play first!
- Grandmaster X cheats! Look he moves two pieces! I can only move one! ... just a castling 0-0-0

In the end; no one admits their own shortcomings; we all have too much ego to even consider we might not know everything; or understand everything; or that we are just plain noobs.

I know that cases well enough; cheater, exploiter, glitcher, ..., spawncamper, Ganker. One of my favorits was a fight against two enemies. They pushed me hard, because they were not bad, but at least i kicked their asses several times. One of them accept this and the other blame me for anything. Then their team full his rankes and the first zone commend of this guy was "He was spawncamping the whole time!". That was funny indeed. An interessting way to explain the stats.

Before playing sto i did not know the most of this insults, so i used google to find out what they mean. I've got several reports, players leaving the map and so on. At least i take it with humor and i recommend you to do the same. You can't change those people. They can not understand how you can beat them so often or so easely. They do not know that there is always a better one and losing is part of a game.

bye

Ceilin

@hivewasp:
As I said already I'm very angry about myself not taking a screenshot about our 2:5 (40:18) run.

Meanwhile I read your thread about OrganizedPvP and Ive got a question: Is this only space or do you also manage Ground PvP?

If Ground is also on your duty, then I like to join and test it.

CU Folks
Tigerpfoetchen

Well we discuss a bit of everything; as for private matches at the moment its a bit quite... strange since we now have 400 members; was a lot more active with only 50. But maybe it's just people burnt out... or trying to complete other stuff (infected, dailies). The channel's about all PvP; so ground is also include, even though i'm not particularly fan of ground pvp.

that was heavy abuse of feedback pulse by the looks of it

and you KNOW that ability is bugged against beams

so really, that screenshot didn't really say anything.

Just proves that people will suicide like lemmings if they don't know how to counter it. And yes it can be countered...

This weekend I saw a fed player in the Captain bracket of ground PvP who had no idea you could crouch (aim). He kept asking why we could "kneel down" and he couldn't.

Still in the same bracket, I saw a Fed Officier telling her buddies to focus fire on one of my team mates because he was "a one-shoter", when I exposed and vaporised her later, she then said that our "whole team were one-shoters", called us "cheaters", and left. How the hell do you get to Captain without knowing about the expose/exploit mechanic ?

Then you have the usual players calling you a cheater when you play a science officier with a mass expose kit (like Geophysicist or Bioresearcher), I don't really blame those because I find it overpowered myself even when I'm the one playing it.

But still, some people have no clue.