Lt. Commander
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Well, I went over there to see what we (Klingons) were getting.
Don't hold your breath guys..your not going to like what looks like is coming.
They are giving us Star Cluster missions (the same ones the feddies have ...explore three planets and out) and our version of the Crystalline entity, Breaking the Planet and Big Dig....and thats it.
No new Sectors, no new areas, no new multi part missions that one can solo, no huge pve world that the feddies have.
Star Clusters and a cpl Fleet action missions and thats it.
I was hoping for SO much more.
Sure they are fixing lots of stuff...but their priority sure as heck isnt us Klingons.

Here is what I posted on the Tribble forums:

Ok, I have read all the notes, and I went to tribble to look about.
Yes, its a lot of updates and I applaud you Cryptic on a lot of the stuff you have done...however comma
You seem to have lost the forest for the trees.
These Star Clusters and a few fleet action missions are your answer for the HUGE MASSIVE outcry for Klingon PVE????
Obviously you don't get it.
It is my lone opinion that the single, BIGGEST, most IMPORTANT thing that has been needed to be added to this game is FULL, RICH, DETAILED pve for the Klingons. You seem to be putting forth a lot of effort on things that yes may be needed but SHOULDNT be at the top of the list ahead of Klingon PVE.
More Klingon PVE means larger Klingon population. That in turn translates into more pvp between the factions as the population imbalance begins to work itself out. You don't seem to understand that.
This pve you have added to the game for the Klingon faction, while nice, should have been only the least bit tip of the iceberg and is in no way going to mollify or satisfy the needed situation.
You will lose massive amounts of subscriptions in the end if this is your idea of klingon pve.
I'll personally stick around...I am an idiot that way and will see it to the end but I can see the writing on the wall.
This 45 day patch is already a make or break for a huge amount of people. It's all over the forums....you DO read those right? I mean you must, you did fix other things.
I do applaud the fixing of many issues, I am though VERY dissapointed that your priorities seem vastly askew.
Klingons want and NEED PVE. Just like the Federation counterparts have. These Star Cluster missions (explore three planets and out) and a few fleet missions arent going to cut it in any way shape or form standing on their own. It's a good start..but it is kind of like taking a fly swatter solution to an elephant of a problem.
I seriously hope you have some hidden pve surprise coming that you simply havent told us (klingons) about yet and are gonna stuff it in our stockings when we arent looking..otherwise...a pretty drab christmas of a gift this is.

Just my 2 energy creds..maybe I am being too negative...but I really was hoping with the huge outcry about Klingon pve that they would have taken us more seriously.

<insert Klingon Death roar here out of sadness>
Lt. Commander
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# 2
03-11-2010, 06:02 PM
Bugger, I was so looking forward to more, I don't PVP and was hoping there was more PVE content to level a Klingon, however if there is not what is the point, and levelling another Federation character just isn't exiting, as some games are when levelling a different char.

Personally I hope you are wrong and that there is really some more content they are not telling us about, also, when is the 45 day patch? there has been no date given to start counting from, or, if there has been I missed it
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# 3
03-12-2010, 02:44 AM
I wonder how many different missions Klingons will encounter in the exploration missions. I have a big fear it will be like 3 different ones, one of it buggy, for every tier the same, just with higher level enemies. Typos in every second quest description and no immersion at all (only beam down to somewhere, shoot a never else seen alien race dead without any apparent reason, upload data from the computer in the last room, finish)

And this ressource mission (provide some aliens with Communication arrays, Entertainment units, ...), without any vendor for it.


Might be pessimistic, but experience teached me not better.
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# 4
03-12-2010, 06:16 AM
The Star clusters are a good quick fix. It would take to long to implement the episodic missions for Klingons to the scale that they are currently found in the Federation. That is more of a long term goal, that I personally would have liked to have seen them delay the release in order to get it in.
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# 5
03-12-2010, 08:49 AM
How much work would it take to make enemy contacts in Klingon space? You know, roving Feds and Roms. A little more effort and we could have roving Vulcans, roving Betazoids and roving other Fed species. Add a Klingon High Command contact and voila, new PvE content.

It's practically cut and paste.
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# 6
03-12-2010, 09:15 AM
cryptic must feel that the majority of STO players want to play as federation chars, so thay figure give more to the more popular side of the game, and with so many people cancelling subs and quiting the game may as well keep working on the more popular side to keep the new peeps happy as long as possible.i am not much into pve but i still enjoy it when burnt out on pvp.its pretty sad when a player has to delete chars and start a new one simply out of boredom and the hopes the game will get better.
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# 7
03-12-2010, 09:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by STObee
How much work would it take to make enemy contacts in Klingon space? You know, roving Feds and Roms. A little more effort and we could have roving Vulcans, roving Betazoids and roving other Fed species. Add a Klingon High Command contact and voila, new PvE content.

It's practically cut and paste.
enemy contacts = nebulas
it's exactly the same once you enter them


Btw I really don't care much about PvE anyway, I hope they make great PvP in the future. One that makes sense and is driving.
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# 8
03-12-2010, 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowRising66 View Post
cryptic must feel that the majority of STO players want to play as federation chars, so thay figure give more to the more popular side of the game, and with so many people cancelling subs and quiting the game may as well keep working on the more popular side to keep the new peeps happy as long as possible.i am not much into pve but i still enjoy it when burnt out on pvp.its pretty sad when a player has to delete chars and start a new one simply out of boredom and the hopes the game will get better.
A self-fullfilling plan. There really are many more Federation players than Klingon (perhaps somewhat due to the glaring lack of Klingon content). So, we'll give the vast majority more of what they have, and whatever resources we have left over will be used to fix minor issues with Klingons (becasue there are not enough leftover resources to fix major issues).

More Klingons quit because the fabled 45-day miracle update didn't give them much at all.

Next update Feds outnumber Klingons by an even wider margain, so Feds get ALL the resources.

Klingon faction closed due to lack of interest and everyone wonders why.
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# 9
03-12-2010, 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by QorChang View Post
Well, I went over there to see what we (Klingons) were getting.
Don't hold your breath guys..your not going to like what looks like is coming.
They are giving us Star Cluster missions (the same ones the feddies have ...explore three planets and out) and our version of the Crystalline entity, Breaking the Planet and Big Dig....and thats it.
No new Sectors, no new areas, no new multi part missions that one can solo, no huge pve world that the feddies have.
Star Clusters and a cpl Fleet action missions and thats it.
I was hoping for SO much more.
Sure they are fixing lots of stuff...but their priority sure as heck isnt us Klingons.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquez
Welcome to the cutting edge of Star Trek Online. Please note that the below list represents what is in the current version of the Update 1 build on Tribble and not all of what you should expect to see in Update 1. We will continue to release the remaining Update 1 features to Tribble when we feel that they have seen enough internal QA testing to warrant showing all of you.
I'm not saying what's on Tribble ISN'T all the Klingon-side is going to be enjoying, but you may be a bit too hasty with the righteous indignation. You've also been heartily responded to over there, but to share the important parts here ...

1) KDF wasn't intended to be a PVE faction
2) Fed PVE has had a year or two of development to get where it's at
3) KDF is going to have to be patient so that our content is delicious and meaningful. 45 days isn't enough to develop and code 45 levels of content.
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# 10
03-12-2010, 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by STObee
How much work would it take to make enemy contacts in Klingon space? You know, roving Feds and Roms. A little more effort and we could have roving Vulcans, roving Betazoids and roving other Fed species. Add a Klingon High Command contact and voila, new PvE content.

It's practically cut and paste.
I don't think that the Feds would be roving content. I could see it being Mirror Universe "looking for a good fight". I could also see it being Romulan expansionists, Gorn sympathizers looking to rthrow off the Klingon mantle, etc.
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