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# 71
03-25-2010, 10:35 AM
After further discussion, it appears the anti-cloak buff doesnt prevent us from claoking. It just increases the ability for us to be detected while cloaked.

I think it was determined it increases detection range by about 3km. I can accept that if its the case. What I wont be ale to accept is if that damn red cross hair remains visible on us while cloaked and outside of detection range.

The term anti-cloak seems to be mis-loeading. It should be called a 60 sec stealth debuff. this shows its decreases an attribute that contributes to cloak effectivness.
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# 72
03-25-2010, 10:52 AM
I love that word "assume"

it makes a "ass" out of "u" and "me"

just remember that the next time it is done, always check facts, thay have a tendency to make the rumers go away.
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# 73
03-25-2010, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cocoa-jin View Post
After further discussion, it appears the anti-cloak buff doesnt prevent us from claoking. It just increases the ability for us to be detected while cloaked.

I think it was determined it increases detection range by about 3km. I can accept that if its the case. What I wont be ale to accept is if that damn red cross hair remains visible on us while cloaked and outside of detection range.

The term anti-cloak seems to be mis-loeading. It should be called a 60 sec stealth debuff. this shows its decreases an attribute that contributes to cloak effectivness.
In that case every BoP pilot should be hitting Full Aux once they begin cloaking and an Eng battery. Basically changing nothing . If you weren't doing this you deserve to die, lol.
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# 74
03-25-2010, 11:07 AM
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My experience with Cryptic is they tend to be very over reactionary . In this game it could spell the destruction of the Klingon faction. They tend to not fully test the changes they implement . This will not end well.
I can agree with that having 5+ years experience with them in previous games.

I think if they took SNB out of the game completely I would have no problem with their "fix".
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# 75
03-25-2010, 01:19 PM
I to don't have an issue with the changes to cloaking. I have both a Neg'Var and BoP. Battle Cloak I have always used like a sensor blind anyway. Nice to have another trick up your sleeve.

I wish they'd fix the Neg'Vars BO positions, for a hugh ship, the ranks of the BOs are lacking. Especially for the Science officer. I'd trade one of my Engineers for another Science Officer.

On the issue of SNB, its just got to go. I don't mind VM as much since I carry ST1. I know it doesn't work like it should but at least "if" they fix it to do as it should I'll be happy (ST1 that is). SNB is just obscene. Please, lets not get into the CC options and their counters. All BG5s have been around the block on skills so we have been hit with pretty much most of the CC skills by now to know what we are talking about.

Pretty much if the devs are reading through these threads I would recommend that:

1) Get a Klingon character and fly through the instances, stations and PvP areas we exisit in. Sure I know that Federation areas have so much chatter they sound like a dumbed down version of WoW's trade channel. For the Klingon areas, quieter as they may be, you may learn a thing or two from us. Example: Goto Qunos, or near "Infected" and try to form a KDF team.

Maybe try and just appear in our areas and announce who you are. Most I would think would appreciate a dev appearance in the KDF areas. Not to mention we can check out what a devs pimped out ride looks like.

2) Reevaluate our ships. No I am not saying they need to mirror the Feds (O' God I do NOT mean this). I do mean that many of our BO positions don't make sense for the ships that they are. Example: If a hugh ship needs to defend itself as well as be viable in combat what BO skills would they need? Do ships-of-the-line have the ability to have these BOs? Also what the heck is the use of BOs that can't use all their skills? I have yet to see any that can use T4 skills on the KDF side.

3) Clothes - Well yes, I know that the Feds THRIVE on clothing options but to be honest there is little to nothing on the KDF side. I'm not asking for lingerie for our crew (well maybe for Orions ) but it would be nice to have something other than a sash for an armor choice. Included in this would be the appearance of kits. Feds have this, why not Klingons?

3) Ship Configuration - well many are not familiar with Star Fleet Battles which had a litany of ships for each race. I know STO is pretty much following the movies and the TV series and their lack of variety. Would be nice to have more ship choices. We can't change anything about or ships except of a skin atm.

4) All for more PvP maps. Honestly I don't know how a Fed player can treat PvE / PvP differently. PvP is better in the sense that its more of a challenge. PvE AI in this game isn't too bright. I really don't advocate PvP only servers due to the fact that I don't think many Fed players will flock to it (I maybe wrong).

5) Missions - OMG I would like to know what the heck were you thinking Cryptic to make the high end missions FACTION SPECIFIC????? Just refer to #1 and try and form a KDF "Infected" group. After forming that group, try and finish the mission. If you can do that try and repeat this process again each day. You will find, for a KDF member its near impossible. What concerns me most is that the mission faction specific groups has been a complaint in the forums for a while and what does the new high end content include ? - Faction specific groups.....ugh.......and you wonder why many of repeat that Cryptic devs don't listen to KDF members.


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# 76
03-25-2010, 02:21 PM
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My experience with Cryptic is they tend to be very over reactionary . In this game it could spell the destruction of the Klingon faction. They tend to not fully test the changes they implement . This will not end well.
Cryptic can only test so much internally.

what needs is that the PLAYER BASE log in to the test server and beta test.

so anyone that isn't really don't have any rights to complain about any of this.

ppl had over 2 weeks to log in to tribble and test all that was getting changed.

they didn't and now they whine.

so maybe when the next major update comes to tribble, ppl might actually log in and test it....

but then again, probably not.
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# 77
03-25-2010, 02:53 PM
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You still don't get it; you lost deal with it like a man. Grow up stop your Fed QQ and actually learn to play. You might be impressed by what you and your team will be capable off but then again you'd most likely get them killed but guess what itís a game, not the end of the world. So take that first step, itís not like your risking life or limb. Is that what you wanted to hear, it seems you get confused easily about what the real topic is but then again I don't expect much from you, but maybe one day you'll suprise me.


P.S. Reasons Feds Lose is very obvious - problem is they don't want to acknowledge that they are doing something wrong.
Please, take a moment and read what you wrote...

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Not Suprised - this is just another nail in the coffin - lets be honest the Klingon Faction is dead and getting deader by the day - is that even a word ? Oh Well, I've said it once and i'll say it again Star Trek Online is a one faction game
That post.. is QQ.

Not once, did I say anything even CLOSE to whining about things being uneven on the Klingon side.. Please, if you can find something I said, show me. My first post said with this update true or not, that things would be MORE FAIR. I play both a Federation and Klingon character, and I don't whine if I lose the game.

I lost at what? Im afraid you didn't beat me in anything, you've contradicted yourself to many times, for anyone to keep up with it. In your original post, Im not sure what your going on about, Im not sure how one update can be the death of the faction.

You're a Drama Queen that has no clue what the topic is. We're not talking about Federation PvP skills, which we all know could be better. We're talking about the update to Klingons about the cloaking issue.. Im not sure how clear I can make it for you, or how many times I have to post it. When you know you have nothing to back it up, you just randomly attack me for things you have no knowledge of...

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Once again, your making blatant assumptions.
The only one that is making Blatant assumptions is YOU. Insulting my PvP skills, while it may give you some pleasure, it is NOT any kind of valid arguement. Like I said, I could die 40 times in a match, on my Klingon or my Fed character, and the fact still remains. ONE MINOR UPDATE IN PVP is NOT the "nail in the coffen for the Klingon Faction...

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You might want to take a momenat and re-read the above forum posts - or continue prattling on with nothing relevant to add.

Hmm.. lets recap

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The only thing you over-judged was your self worth.

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educate another clueless federation player.

On a challenge, I created a Fed toon to see what all the FED QQ

and it can now be done with no thought required, much like how FEDís PVP.
You need to start reading what you type before you post it, You attacking the entire Federation Faction won't help you at all. And while you attack them, you contradict your self over and over again. Saying that the Klingon faction is dead, then saying the Federation has 0 PvP skills isn't getting you anywhere.

I don't have the patience to continue talking with someone who can't make valid arguements, or back up what he is trying to say, other than, FEDS SUCK AT PVP!


Just one thing of advice, you might want to /dramaqueen off
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# 78
03-25-2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Skapek-Skocap View Post
Please, take a moment and read what you wrote...



That post.. is QQ.

Not once, did I say anything even CLOSE to whining about things being uneven on the Klingon side.. Please, if you can find something I said, show me. My first post said with this update true or not, that things would be MORE FAIR. I play both a Federation and Klingon character, and I don't whine if I lose the game.

I lost at what? Im afraid you didn't beat me in anything, you've contradicted yourself to many times, for anyone to keep up with it. In your original post, Im not sure what your going on about, Im not sure how one update can be the death of the faction.

You're a Drama Queen that has no clue what the topic is. We're not talking about Federation PvP skills, which we all know could be better. We're talking about the update to Klingons about the cloaking issue.. Im not sure how clear I can make it for you, or how many times I have to post it. When you know you have nothing to back it up, you just randomly attack me for things you have no knowledge of...



The only one that is making Blatant assumptions is YOU. Insulting my PvP skills, while it may give you some pleasure, it is NOT any kind of valid arguement. Like I said, I could die 40 times in a match, on my Klingon or my Fed character, and the fact still remains. ONE MINOR UPDATE IN PVP is NOT the "nail in the coffen for the Klingon Faction...




Hmm.. lets recap






You need to start reading what you type before you post it, You attacking the entire Federation Faction won't help you at all. And while you attack them, you contradict your self over and over again. Saying that the Klingon faction is dead, then saying the Federation has 0 PvP skills isn't getting you anywhere.

I don't have the patience to continue talking with someone who can't make valid arguements, or back up what he is trying to say, other than, FEDS SUCK AT PVP!


Just one thing of advice, you might want to /dramaqueen off
Lets Recap for the mentally challenge - your stil way off topic and have yet to show that you've even begin to grasp the issues that are plaguing this game. You seem to believe were in some kind of game or contest when posting, which continues to show how clueless you truly are. Sadly, I no longer have any faith that you are capabale of growing a brain so I'll borrow one of your childish lines.

I accept your surrender.

Take my advice and grow up.
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