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# 1 Mask Energy Signature
03-14-2010, 10:51 AM
Is there going to be a ETA on getting this fixed so Fed's can have a stealth again? It broken shortly after launch so it no longer works in PvP or PvE any eta on getting it working again so we can at least get it in PvP? Should even up the scales so feds can have a chance against cloak?
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# 2
03-14-2010, 11:32 AM
I doubt they intend to do anyhing to it, since they took the nerf hammer to it.
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# 3
03-14-2010, 11:41 AM
It's completly useless right now so id say its broken too.

Would be a joke if its "broken-by-design", considering how many overpowered abilitys there are in PvP at the moment.
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# 4
03-14-2010, 12:32 PM
It works in PvE btw. Tried it out 2 days ago.

In PvP enemies will detect you. I still don't know at which distance because I wasn't able to find cooperative Klingons elaborating it with me.


And I don't think anything is on its way at the moment. They changed it to this and will keep it this way.
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# 5
03-14-2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Roter_Panda
It works in PvE btw. Tried it out 2 days ago.

In PvP enemies will detect you. I still don't know at which distance because I wasn't able to find cooperative Klingons elaborating it with me.


And I don't think anything is on its way at the moment. They changed it to this and will keep it this way.
MES III with maxed skill can be seen in PvP at around 10km.
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# 6
03-14-2010, 01:21 PM
You need a Science ship for MES III right? I have a escort.

What would be the point having MES on a Science ship?
Science ship with strong shields can hide while the glass cannon escort gets blown to bits?
And I have never seen a Boff with MES III before so i cant try it out either.


I find it a quite ridiculus that they broke this abilitys so horribly.
There are so many God-Mode and I-win buttons in this game why make this OUT OF COMBAT skill so useless?

Of corse you shouldnt be able to get right behind some Klingon and decloak.
I dont want a cloak, i just dont want to be so easyly detectable at far ranges.

I dont think there even is a difference if you have MES on or not. They always see me.
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# 7
03-14-2010, 02:34 PM
Yeah it is pretty useless I actually had a point where it was active and an uncloaked Klingon targeted me around 15km away. Of course I was using MES 1 at the time but still 15km is ridiculous and while it says it's part of the sensor system increasing skill points in the sensors/sensor array has no affect on it.

I know Feds shouldn't really have an official "cloak" but making it so Fed ships can stay hidden till at least 5-7 km would be great.
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# 8
03-14-2010, 03:06 PM
Why shouldn't fed's have a "Offical" cloak, the federation is at War with the Klingon Empire and at War with the Romulan Empire, so the treaty of Algeron wouldn't be in effect anymore for federation developing cloaking tech. Especially after the whole incident with the Scimitar.

Lets get a GM responce on this though, I don't think this skill should be useless so what if it works in PvE it is still pretty worthless with out its PvP uses.

GM's please? Can we get MES working again for PvP uses so the federation can have a chance, Surprise wins battles, when you have no warning of a attack and since stealth detection is pretty worthless (5km) range we need to be able to have our own stealth even if its restricted to just Escorts.
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# 9
03-14-2010, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by skyhawk21 View Post
Yeah it is pretty useless I actually had a point where it was active and an uncloaked Klingon targeted me around 15km away. Of course I was using MES 1 at the time but still 15km is ridiculous and while it says it's part of the sensor system increasing skill points in the sensors/sensor array has no affect on it.

I know Feds shouldn't really have an official "cloak" but making it so Fed ships can stay hidden till at least 5-7 km would be great.
Id say about 10km to 12km would be better, so its still outside weapons range and cant be used offensive.
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# 10
03-15-2010, 04:16 AM
I also learned and tried this skill on my escort. But even fully skilled (MES, sensor, sensor array) and equipping sensor array consoles did not help much. Most ships in PvE can see me.

It is a very fragile stealth, to describe it politely, and it could really need a buff.
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