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# 11
03-27-2010, 03:10 PM
No I am simply being politcally correct. It was decide in America that they could no longer call them Red Indians descendants of the original tribes had to be refered to as Native Americans. Of course they were to stupid to release that that made the rest of them Non-Native Americans.
You blow your own argunent away, they want to be addressed by a different rank, ie not by a title. A rank is not a title a title is not a rank.
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# 12
03-27-2010, 05:41 PM
Isn't one getting a bit carried away with the whole title/rank thing?

Surely blowing stuff up while going 'pew pew' is sufficient?
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# 13 hi
03-27-2010, 06:16 PM
In the programming language, different variables are expressed with different words.
Ambassador can be a rank, but it is more often a title instead.
It can be both.

If you want the title's to be based off of battle exploits, you should ask for that.
Not everyone has been in the military, a culture with titles or europe, so the concept is unfamiliar.
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# 14
03-27-2010, 06:26 PM
As far as military ranks being used as titles are concerned, it is perfectly acceptable for ranks to be used as titles in most armed forces IF you use the rank you are as your title. There would be no 'Admiral Captain Soandso' in the real world because it would have to be one or the other.

In the context of STO however, we find ourselves in a different situation. Players are only refered to Lieutenant, Captain or Admiral etc because that is the basis of the level system that Cryptic coded as a gameplay mechanic. That mechanic may not fit how the player wishes to have their character known as.
So in this case, where the characters wish to roleplay as a Captain, having despite already gained admiral as far as leveling is concerned, the game mechanic rank should be ignored in favour of the player set one, as far as RP is concerned. There would be no 'Admiral Captain so and so' because the player is outwardly showing himself to be 'Captain' or 'Admiral' not both.

As far as Ambassador is concerned, Ambassador is a true title not a rank, as theoretically, anyone of any position could be appointed as an ambassador. Much as the commanding officer of a ship or in this case starship is refered to as it's 'Captain' regardless of rank actually held. But, having a title such as Ambassador would mean the person would stop using their rank as the 'title' so to speak. There is no case of 'Ambassador Captain' because it just becomes 'Ambassador'.

EDIT: In conclusion, as far as I can tell, Cryptic's system is perfectly accurate in regards to the array of titles and ranks they have available.
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# 15
03-27-2010, 06:45 PM
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Miltary and Diplomatic Ranks are not and never have been titles.
Actually, that is incorrect.

The old US Navy rank of Commodore is now a title for senior Captains, not a rank.
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# 16 Are you Serious...Really
03-27-2010, 10:35 PM
Earning your right to be a certain rank is part of the natural progression of the game and life for that matter. Star Fleet is a Military organization. Just because you want to name yourself Captain Crab doesn't mean someone is going to give you a Galaxy Class Star Ship....Give yourself a name Like Sponge Bob and later on when you've worked really hard you can be Admiral Sponge Bob.
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# 17
03-28-2010, 01:37 AM
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Actually, that is incorrect.

The old US Navy rank of Commodore is now a title for senior Captains, not a rank.
But not at the same time. Commodore became Rear- Admiral at which time it was no longer a rank.
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# 18
03-28-2010, 03:33 AM
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Actually thats what people who want to be addressed as Captain should have done. This is not about what you are called or not but the idiocy of having titles which are in fact ranks and are the same as in game ranks. It makes no sense at all
I see what you've done here.. and this is YOUR mistake, not Cryptic's.

Full Name: Jonathan Zachary Smith
Short Name: Captain

You chose this, because you wanted everyone to refer to you "as Captain". The problem is, the game expects a name there.. like "Kirk", "Riker" or "Picard" or in the above example,.. "Smith". The game uses the following syntax in most dialogs.

"Greetings " + <player rank> + <player shortname> + ", we need your help...."

The expected result, if your "Short Name" was "Smith" would be this..

"Greetings Ensign Smith, we need your help..."

Because you made the mistake of putting "Captain" where "Smith" should be.. now your mission dialogs are coming up..

"Greetings Ensign Captain, we need your help..."

The simple fact is, this is YOUR glaring mistake.. not Cryptic's. And to fix it.. you're going to need to purchase a rename token, or delete the character and start over.
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# 19
03-28-2010, 07:18 AM
The Correct way to Address a Military Officer with a Title.


UK Armed Forces Head: British Military Successful in Iraq
Posted by Paul Fiddian on 27/07/2007 - 10:51:57

The most prominent figure within UK armed forces, Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup, yesterday confirmed the British Military’s mission goals in the south of Iraq had been achieved with success. Detailing this further
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# 20
03-28-2010, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevscar View Post
The Correct way to Address a Military Officer with a Title.


UK Armed Forces Head: British Military Successful in Iraq
Posted by Paul Fiddian on 27/07/2007 - 10:51:57

The most prominent figure within UK armed forces, Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup, yesterday confirmed the British Military’s mission goals in the south of Iraq had been achieved with success. Detailing this further
Sir Jock Stirrup?

Did the 'pew pew' not work for you? Did you not say it right? It's got to be high pitched and sound like a laser! You've got to REALLY believe you're shooting at space ships or people.

Only then will people think you're a proper Captain..so, are you 'Pew Pewing' enough?
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