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# 451
12-11-2010, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
Because the Voyager pips are more silver than gold. I've been watching a lot Voyager recently and I noticed that their pips look like white gold. Since there is not an appropriate silver with a gold sheen I find silver looks more accurate. If these pips were done like the TOS rank stripes they would look perfect.

Actually the silver with the gold sheen looks more accurate to me, since in many of the TOS episodes the stripes appear a more faded gold, as if the uniforms were being washed too often.

And the cool gray looks more accurate to me. It works better with the different lighting effects in the game, taking on the proper tones at the proper time.

Janeway:
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Ka...eway,_2377.jpg <--- gold pips
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Ka...eway,_2371.jpg <-- gold pips
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Ja...egotiation.jpg <--- gold pips

Tuvok:
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Tuvok_2371.jpg <-- gold pips
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Tuvok2378.jpg <--- gold pips

Tom Paris:
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Tom_Paris,_2376.jpg <--- a little harder to see, but definitely gold


There are others, if you want to look through the personnel list, but I think I've made my point?'

Otherwise, nice work.
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# 452
12-11-2010, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuatela
Janeway:
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Ka...eway,_2377.jpg <--- gold pips
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Ka...eway,_2371.jpg <-- gold pips
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Ja...egotiation.jpg <--- gold pips

Tuvok:
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Tuvok_2371.jpg <-- gold pips
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Tuvok2378.jpg <--- gold pips

Tom Paris:
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Tom_Paris,_2376.jpg <--- a little harder to see, but definitely gold


There are others, if you want to look through the personnel list, but I think I've made my point?'

Otherwise, nice work.
Thank you, but I'd just like to point out that if you watch the shows, instead of looking at stills you can see what I mean by "If these pips were done like the TOS rank stripes (having a gold sheen built in) they would look perfect." As the characters move around you can see the pips change radically from silver to gold then back again quite often.

Even so, you can choose to use gold as you wish. It's just a guide after all.


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# 453
12-11-2010, 06:04 PM
The pips on Voyager are gold or my name is George, and it's not.

The only time the pips were silver in the 24th Century was during the first 2 seasons of TNG. After that production swapped to a gold color for the pips and did not look back.

And on the note of the TOS braids, looks like the devs went in an slipped in a fix to the recolor problem.

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/w.../TOSSilver.jpg

That's straight up silver, not even close to the TOS braids of Gold, which would be the second box in from the left.
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# 454
12-11-2010, 06:42 PM
Looks like they also slipped in a fix for the silver pips with the gold sheen, like I mentioned.

Example 1
Example 2

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# 455
12-11-2010, 07:46 PM
Yep, no more gold sheen on there, just straight up silver.
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# 456
12-11-2010, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
Thank you, but I'd just like to point out that if you watch the shows, instead of looking at stills you can see what I mean by "If these pips were done like the TOS rank stripes (having a gold sheen built in) they would look perfect." As the characters move around you can see the pips change radically from silver to gold then back again quite often.

Even so, you can choose to use gold as you wish. It's just a guide after all.


Oh, I've seen the shows...saw them when they came on originally (back when they were on UPN), and reruns on Spike. Unfortunately, I don't have the DVD's, so I can't go back and study them. Still shots are all I have to go on :/
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# 457
12-11-2010, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jennjahn View Post
I noticed an odd thing to mention, if you hit randomize in the tailor for just the legs, you can cycle through some of the other costume pieces beyond the one "assigned" with the top piece. Its how I managed to to get one of my female characters in a bustier and jeans combo. Perhaps you could use that to get the aquablue Troi dress.
I don't know. I've randomized the bottom only about a hundred times on four or five characters and several different costume slots and I'm not getting those Off Duty bottoms with a Uniform top. Maybe they fixed the bug that allowed that or something?

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By the way, if you didnt know the AGT uniforms are available for customization using the Foundry tools. Thus if you wanted to you could make the guide to those and get them out of the way before they are even released..just a thought.
I tried that, but I don't seem to be able to zoom out enough to get full body shots. My new wireless mouse wheel doesn't work on those screens. They need to add a click to zoom in and out like at the Tailor.

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# 458
12-12-2010, 08:29 AM
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Even so, you can choose to use gold as you wish. It's just a guide after all.
For which I am happy to have you take the time to do.
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# 459
12-12-2010, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
I don't know. I've randomized the bottom only about a hundred times on four or five characters and several different costume slots and I'm not getting those Off Duty bottoms with a Uniform top. Maybe they fixed the bug that allowed that or something?
I haven't been able to duplicate that either, and I spent several minutes in both uniform and off-duty slots (including an "extra" slot that I've bought)
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# 460
12-12-2010, 05:49 PM
Heeey, awesome work.

Any chance, however, of getting a guide for Commander Bradden's Starfleet Intelligence variant of the Vice Admiral Coat? He can be seen on the "Factions" section off of the main STO page.
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