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# 1 A rough night of pugging...
04-18-2010, 08:01 AM
I must be a glutton for punishment. I pug regularly. There, I said it.

Sometimes it works. It's like a random roll of the die and you get 4 or 5 players who at least know how to support the team. But when it's a bad roll....oh god is it bad. I would've lost a lot of money in vegas last night.

A couple times I got lucky and got Devoras...seems like whatever team he's on wins, lol. Shows how effective a good science guy can be.

Other than those two times though, it was bad. Always had some guy in an escort full impulse to the enemy spawn point. Is it just me, or is it always a guy in an escort?

Last game was the worst, I guess that's why it's the last game. Right off the bat it was bad. Two players wouldn't join the team. And they immediately full impulsed to the other side, just to respawn behind us about 15 seconds later. That was a bad omen, they had to have died really quick.

Me and my two teammates get close enough to see the enemy team. It's DoB. About that time, the escort and other guy fly past us at full impulse again, right into DoB...and die again.

I honestly feel sorry for DoB. People that good need a challenge, and they sure weren't going to get that from us.

Just to be safe, I explain to the team how to counter TSS. Then had to talk in zone chat to try and get the other two to regroup with us.

So, we engage them, my teammate gets FF, so I heal and throw extend shields on them. Their shields drop, so I use my EPtS on them (not sure if this worked to repair his shields). Didn't matter though since I had a big target on my back with extend shields going. So they FF me and I'm dead. No heals, no extend shields, not even a science team was sent my way. End result, I did more healiing than my entire team combined...multiplied by four.

What's really sad is, I'll probably pug again. I'm a glutton for punishment.
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# 2
04-18-2010, 08:11 AM
Sorry you get bad pug groups man. Least you keep your cool and try to use teamwork.
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# 3
04-18-2010, 09:30 AM
join the organized pvp channel! Chances are you can actually get a group together from the people sitting around. (its how I got devoras to start premading with me :p)

organizedpvp
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# 4
04-18-2010, 09:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by faithborn
join the organized pvp channel! Chances are you can actually get a group together from the people sitting around. (its how I got devoras to start premading with me :p)

organizedpvp
This ^

I'm usually just lurking in it, but it's a handy resource to have.
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# 5
04-18-2010, 10:26 AM
I still want to shoot izzx!
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# 6
04-18-2010, 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Izzx
What's really sad is, I'll probably pug again. I'm a glutton for punishment.
Nah, you just enjoy the challenge. A pug that works makes up for a lot of bad ones.
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# 7
04-18-2010, 11:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Izzx
I must be a glutton for punishment. I pug regularly. There, I said it.
That sounds a lot like "An-incredible-streak-of-bad-luck" (TM). Be afraid for it can last as long as a couple of years, I kid you not.
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# 8
04-18-2010, 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Izzx
I must be a glutton for punishment. I pug regularly. There, I said it.

Sometimes it works. It's like a random roll of the die and you get 4 or 5 players who at least know how to support the team. But when it's a bad roll....oh god is it bad. I would've lost a lot of money in vegas last night.

A couple times I got lucky and got Devoras...seems like whatever team he's on wins, lol. Shows how effective a good science guy can be.

Other than those two times though, it was bad. Always had some guy in an escort full impulse to the enemy spawn point. Is it just me, or is it always a guy in an escort?

Last game was the worst, I guess that's why it's the last game. Right off the bat it was bad. Two players wouldn't join the team. And they immediately full impulsed to the other side, just to respawn behind us about 15 seconds later. That was a bad omen, they had to have died really quick.

Me and my two teammates get close enough to see the enemy team. It's DoB. About that time, the escort and other guy fly past us at full impulse again, right into DoB...and die again.

I honestly feel sorry for DoB. People that good need a challenge, and they sure weren't going to get that from us.

Just to be safe, I explain to the team how to counter TSS. Then had to talk in zone chat to try and get the other two to regroup with us.

So, we engage them, my teammate gets FF, so I heal and throw extend shields on them. Their shields drop, so I use my EPtS on them (not sure if this worked to repair his shields). Didn't matter though since I had a big target on my back with extend shields going. So they FF me and I'm dead. No heals, no extend shields, not even a science team was sent my way. End result, I did more healiing than my entire team combined...multiplied by four.

What's really sad is, I'll probably pug again. I'm a glutton for punishment.
This post could have been written by me.
It is so hard to find competent help these days. Fortunately I am often decent enough on my own to carry my team of incompetent minions to victory if they aren't completely braindead, or at least survive long enough myself to have some fun despite of our team loosing the match hideously. Unless I meet Devoras's Subnuc + VM barrage team, ofcourse.

ps. People refusing team invites in PvP matches go on my ignore list. Seriously.
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# 9
04-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Pugs are fun and annoying at the same time. But thats what makes them my preferred choice. Premade groups for pvping or pveing are great. Playing with the same people all of the time has its advantages. You know each others weakness or strengths.

But if all you do is play in groups where everyone does what you want them to do, then you will usually fail in a random group.

I've been apart of many pugs here in STO. There have been numerous times (in pugs) where the team started out terrible. But as soon as players notice how each other are playing/using skills and adjust... any pug can be good. Just because I am an engineer that loves to use my fabrications doesn't mean I can use them how I think they should be used all of the time. Sometimes I just have to adjust to my enviroment. Sometimes I have to just stop using my fabs for the entire match.

In space it can be much tougher. Many Klingon pugs would not be that great without their cloak ability, which gives them a chance to group up, follow the leader, etc. Feds have to adjust on the fly alot faster. And the fact of the matter is, Feds don't adjust fast well in space pugs. I am an engineer and surprisingly rank high in healing in many space matches compared to other ppl on my side. Most spacers just want to dmg dmg dmg dmg. They don't care about healing others. I was like that when i first started pvping in space in STO. Until I got tired of nobody else healing.
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# 10
04-18-2010, 06:43 PM
Thanks for the responses and the support. It was one of those situations where it was so bad, it was kinda funny. Which is why I shared it.

So now I'll join the organized pvp chat and hook up with some good players. But you know, the truth is, in a moment of weakness, I'll pug again. I think I need an intervention.
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