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# 21
05-02-2010, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Turak View Post
Yep, there is no doubt that those science abilities were overpowered. However, us science captains just got hit with a nerf nuke. Not the nerf bat, but something far more potent. I've never seen such a one-sided nerf in a single patch before. Where is my free respec so I can untrain sensor probes and go with something that hasn't been nerfed out of existance yet. I use to be able to VM for over 40 seconds. Yes, overpowered, I know. But now it only lasts for about 13 seconds, and is no where near as potent. I was playing on Elite earlier today, and I found the ability useless.
I think this all way too much Hyperbole. The new SNB is not nerfed, but it reuqire a different way to use it.
Think about it: You can take away all those nasty Escort buffs that put so much hurt on you and your team-maters. You can take away those pesky RPS that some Engineers loved to chain to get some semblance of survivability. You can now combine Sensor Scan and Feedback Pulse to put real hurt against Klingons and Escort that so love their cannons...

Viral Matrix might be genuinely nerfed, but the fact that it works a lot better against Escorts counts a lot to me, too.
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# 22
05-02-2010, 09:57 AM
I haven't tried VM since it got hit but I never used it all that much before, in fact I had to be talked into getting it on a character for PvP. That is how much I hated it. If I didn't have other skills to use in place I might use it as I use some other skills from time to time, as a decoy to get my target to use their Science Team before throwing the real skill on them I wanted to. If you think of it this way, and against Escort pilots in particular that rely heavily on their speed, agility and damage equally, it can still be useful without being so over the top it leaves you spitting in fury.
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# 23
05-02-2010, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote420 View Post
Viral Matrix is usless now
Good.

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# 24
05-02-2010, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MustrumRidcully View Post
I think this all way too much Hyperbole. The new SNB is not nerfed, but it reuqire a different way to use it.
Think about it: You can take away all those nasty Escort buffs that put so much hurt on you and your team-maters. You can take away those pesky RPS that some Engineers loved to chain to get some semblance of survivability. You can now combine Sensor Scan and Feedback Pulse to put real hurt against Klingons and Escort that so love their cannons...

Viral Matrix might be genuinely nerfed, but the fact that it works a lot better against Escorts counts a lot to me, too.
I completely agree about SNB. It is a very useful tool now. FBP, RSP, Attack Pattern Alpha...the big three now can be countered. By the same tokan, SNB can also be countered by Science Team / Photonic Officer. An adjustment in thinking about when and how to pop these is now required. I don't think the solution in game play is to go running off and starting a Science Officer. There are some creative minds out there, far more than myself, who will figure out out to adjust to this and destroy everything in sight.

As for VM, I personally will not use it. It can be countered by EN I. In PvP, everybody and his brother, sister, aunt, cousins, mom, dad, and wife has EN TM at some level. It is far more common as a skill than SNB (T3 Science is when it appears. For SCI's only I believe). As for PvE, I don't know. I haven't seen a SCI TM or EN TM in PvE yet (currently T3). I'll have to play it by ear.

Finally...I am pretty sure this is the case, Since SNB doesn't show up until part way through Tier 3, at T2, RSP, FBP, and Attack Pattern Alpha retain their supremacy, operating with no checks.
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# 25
05-02-2010, 08:39 PM
VM is so ludicrously gimped now it's actually a waste of a bridge officer skill to even have it. It seems to do absolutely nothing.

Meanwhile, SNB is even more ridiculous than it was before given that even with my aux at 25 I can add a significant freeze to every skill in an enemy's toolbox.
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# 26
05-03-2010, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PlanetOfHats View Post
VM is so ludicrously gimped now it's actually a waste of a bridge officer skill to even have it. It seems to do absolutely nothing.

Meanwhile, SNB is even more ridiculous than it was before given that even with my aux at 25 I can add a significant freeze to every skill in an enemy's toolbox.
did you know that when an undine ship buffs itself with beam overload or high yield torps, you can't see the buf icons?

the new tf is going to be fun
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