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# 21
04-30-2010, 12:11 PM
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Hey @sshole, and you know you are one so don't argue the point,
LMAO I loved this part....should make that into a bumper sticker or something.
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# 22
04-30-2010, 12:41 PM
Butthurt because decloaking in the middle of a fedball and mashing FBP chains doesn't work anymore, in 3, 2, 1....

Seriously. Spent months being told by klinks in pvp that they're awesome and this skill change wont alter anything. They were allowed to crow about how awesome they are whilst spamming FBP, but yer giving me shiat for pointing out the obvious, and saying how nice things are now it's been made more reasonable? Shame on you.
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# 23
04-30-2010, 12:56 PM
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Butthurt because decloaking in the middle of a fedball and mashing FBP chains doesn't work anymore, in 3, 2, 1....

Seriously. Spent months being told by klinks in pvp that they're awesome and this skill change wont alter anything. They were allowed to crow about how awesome they are whilst spamming FBP, but yer giving me shiat for pointing out the obvious, and saying how nice things are now it's been made more reasonable? Shame on you.
I don't use feedback pulse and would be more than happy to blow your ship to bits.
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# 24
04-30-2010, 01:05 PM
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I know you've been used to pressing three buttons to win the match. I know your BoPs with your fbp's, vm's, and a couple of tac abilities and the odd sci captain among you spamming snb, used to auto-win every match you played. I know FBP used to get you more than half of your damage score.

Please, please change your style of play to suit this latest patch. Now you actually have to put a modicum of effort into your strategies. FBP isn't an insta-win. It doesn't do more than 100% return damage even at the highest powered Mk3 level. VM and SNB are still potent... but they have different applications now.

For the longest time I've stuck to FvF because the variety and tenacity of opponents I face has been far greater than I found in FvK. The battles are extremely tactical. I had to be ready for all manner of subsystem targets, all manner of sci abilities, and the escort I didn't see aft would hit me with full weapons power because he didn't decloak.

I've played several FvK matches today and it's been 100%, an absolute laughable joke.

To reiterate: FBP, VM, AND SNB, DOESN'T AUTO-WIN ANYMORE.

Please sort yourselves out. I'd like a bit of competition in matches as opposed to neverending wipes.

Yours sincererly,
-A friend <3
Well personally as a Klingon I am enjoying the changes. However, one day after the patch bragging how uber l33t you are now seems a bit premature don't you think? I still use everything you speak of, and quite effectively too. So your claims of no challange and how Klingons suck, well you weren't in the pvp matches I was in last night, because we won. Fact is there are bad players either side, but to champion yourself as you are on a forum, the same forum that you QQ in prior doesn't make you great.
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# 25
04-30-2010, 01:20 PM
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I know you've been used to pressing three buttons to win the match. I know your BoPs with your fbp's, vm's, and a couple of tac abilities and the odd sci captain among you spamming snb, used to auto-win every match you played. I know FBP used to get you more than half of your damage score.

Please, please change your style of play to suit this latest patch. Now you actually have to put a modicum of effort into your strategies. FBP isn't an insta-win. It doesn't do more than 100% return damage even at the highest powered Mk3 level. VM and SNB are still potent... but they have different applications now.

For the longest time I've stuck to FvF because the variety and tenacity of opponents I face has been far greater than I found in FvK. The battles are extremely tactical. I had to be ready for all manner of subsystem targets, all manner of sci abilities, and the escort I didn't see aft would hit me with full weapons power because he didn't decloak.

I've played several FvK matches today and it's been 100%, an absolute laughable joke.

To reiterate: FBP, VM, AND SNB, DOESN'T AUTO-WIN ANYMORE.

Please sort yourselves out. I'd like a bit of competition in matches as opposed to neverending wipes.

Yours sincererly,
-A friend <3
I guess I'm going to have to change my tactics. Because I was rocking FBP3, VM3 AND Subnuc with my Tac/Raptor. It's the super secret Klingon "we have access to every ability no matter what type of officer we are or ship we're flying" bonus. Shh! Don't tell anyone about it, though. It's a secret.

Won 3/4 today before I got bored and logged off said overpowered, autowinning, FBP3, VM3 and subnuc spamming tactical officer in an escort.
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# 26
04-30-2010, 01:39 PM
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Hey @sshole, and you know you are one so don't argue the point,

the problem now has nothing to do with specific abilities but an actual change in the dynamics of shields themselves. Since now shield power has a more drastic effect on resistances certain basic abilities like rotate shield frequency, emergency power to shields, just to name a few , make science ships almost unkillable. Oh, and imagine that.. every pvp match I've played since patch.. all science ships... best shield levels in the game... 5 of us focused on one ship... not being supported by anyone else except for a few engineering teams... took us 5 mins to take him down and I finally killed him with a ramming speed from my BC. The whole team was using differing target subsystems... which is the flavor of the week for premades... So, now you'll see whole teams of carriers and BC's again... and feds will all use sci ships... I wouldn't call that balanced.
That could have been me and I was in a star cruiser tho RowdyRogers and my guy is built to tank/support people's, tho I could be wrong but I remember a BC ramming me to finish me off with like 12% life left when I had 4 or 5 people beating on me last night. you got me in time cause I was about to abandon ship .
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# 27
04-30-2010, 02:00 PM
Dear Federation:

In response to your polite request of the 29 the empire must reply that it cannot cease its combat activities in the form mentioned. Per the federation contract of 4 years ago the empire in honor bound to ensure the federaion continues to recieve scrap metal untill such time as the debt owed by the empire to the federation is paid off. We of the empire consider it very bad form at this late date to make complaint of the form of delivery for said scrap metal when we of the empire are simply making very minor modification in the federation delivery methods (for scrap) to ensure our own delivery are rendered per contract in a most expeditious manner. Untill such time as the current debt is paid in full we of the empire are honor bound to use ANY and ALL means at our disposal to continue deliveries. We are both fortunate that the original contract established by precedent that there was no limitation for the scorse of this scrap metal and as such we have endevored to convert the greater number of warship hulls in the federation battle fleet to scrap metal to ensure deliveries.. The empire will contunueit record of on time deliveries to federation personell where ever, and when ever we find them untill such time as the full mesure of Klingon delivers scrap metal is full filled.


Thank you for your consideration
annon warrior of the Klingon Empire.
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# 28
04-30-2010, 02:02 PM
Well that Troll gets a lot of food.

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Jesus Chirst..another "LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY, LOOK AT ME!" thread.

You beat some Klingons, well done.
That cuts right to the chase of the matter.

(By the way, concerning to this post your avatar seems to fit perfectly^^)
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# 29
04-30-2010, 02:42 PM
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I don't use feedback pulse and would be more than happy to blow your ship to bits.
I would very much like to see you try.
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# 30
04-30-2010, 03:36 PM
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Agreed, I see Feds using the trinity much more than Klinks do.
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That's better! Get in the trolling spirit!
What can I say. I know the whole script of Supertroopers pretty much line for line. Tis just a little homage.

RE- after being told in pretty much every fvk match since the big-3 dev post on the tribble boards that I've been in, that the big-3 changes aren't going to change how z0mgawesome we are, said the klink, I think I'm within my rights to make the brief observation of "No, actually it did."

I played against a lot of stupid sci-ships yesterday. But I played against a lot more stupid klinks; By the end of the day I'd yet to find one who knew what they were doing due to FBP not being the win-buttin anymore. I almost felt sorry for the carriers. On the flipside, a worrying amount of sci vessels had already begun to toss largely-buffed tykens and syphons around. I'll poke as much fun as I might want to until the knuckleheads catch up
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,

the problem now has nothing to do with specific abilities but an actual change in the dynamics of shields themselves. Since now shield power has a more drastic effect on resistances certain basic abilities like rotate shield frequency, emergency power to shields, just to name a few , make science ships almost unkillable. Oh, and imagine that.. every pvp match I've played since patch.. all science ships... best shield levels in the game... 5 of us focused on one ship... not being supported by anyone else except for a few engineering teams... took us 5 mins to take him down and I finally killed him with a ramming speed from my BC. The whole team was using differing target subsystems... which is the flavor of the week for premades... So, now you'll see whole teams of carriers and BC's again... and feds will all use sci ships... I wouldn't call that balanced.
To the Original OP.. what you wrote and those subsequently postings shows poor sportsmanship and lack of respect for all other classes,.. I as a Fed science officer, will not go out my way or even try to help you, with heals or support when you do get in trouble. I hope other Fed Science and Engineering class players do the same, since you rather be the Rambo type and do everything by yourself and on you own, instead of playing with "stupid" sci player or working as a team .

First when did it become not okay to use your class abilities - that like me saying hey tactical.. you cannot use rapid fire, TSS and HY, and Alpha Omega , because that is your I win button, and everyone know that combo is also " I - win " combo - let see how you do without those.

I am science class, I suppose use them, they are one of the few working science abilities that actually do work and give science players a chance to fight back, the rest of our abilities are so non-existent, many of us do not even bother with them . . what are we suppose to do.. toss marbles at you.

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That could have been me and I was in a star cruiser tho RowdyRogers and my guy is built to tank/support people's, tho I could be wrong but I remember a BC ramming me to finish me off with like 12% life left when I had 4 or 5 people beating on me last night. you got me in time cause I was about to abandon ship.

Naw - Chronico, its could perhaps had been me science ship "Bahia" handle "Qusar-Tare "- I was in some amazing pvp fights last night against numerous klinks, quite a few times, some where they got me easy.. other times.. took 4 or 5 of them to get me down after some adjustments, BC ram me also to finish me

One of my best fight last night was against Blackjack and someone else.. cannot remember, last night, especially against Blackjack , who is very tough to beat anyway.. I got him down to almost like 5%, and I still have twice more shield and hull strength than he did, and he pull this move, that in two seconds I was dead, right before the match end .. I pm him and ask what he did.. and he would not tell me lol.. but I going to learn and find out

No matter who it is, sound like there was more enjoyment and survivability than previous before that players had pvp. .
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