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Just an idea I thought would add some spark and bring in new Klingon Warriors....and new races.


The Hydran Kingdom has insulted the Lyran for the last time. The Lyran hastily turn to their allies (Klingon Empire) for support. They have agreed to be absorbed into the Mighty Empire with just two requirements, the conquering of Hydra and a seat on the counsel. With Hydrans and Lyran now added to the Empire they would have the power and numbers to conquer the Tholians.

So there you have it, 3 new races, many new ships and new space to discover.
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# 2
05-03-2010, 02:20 PM
Totally on board with this idea!

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# 3
05-03-2010, 05:25 PM
I would love a race with furs entering STO.
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# 4 much suck
05-04-2010, 05:10 AM
They'd screw it up. Being honest, but Lyrans were a race, that used heavy amount of fighters/carrier tactics. Just look at the KDF carrier, I think not. If it were done right, I'd be all for that, Tholian, Kzinti, ISC, Adroms, Romulans, Dominion, and the like. They'd add some nice tactics and fresh views for players, even if they were still on a faction (2 side game, Fed/KDF)

That all said, in all honesty, the games lacks the core mechanics to make a lot of races, worth a damn. Either due to no 360 movement, or that speed and turn rates equate only to weapon arc time on target. A player can't do 1/2 the stuff, that would actually be used, nor do they do some of the current weapon systems any justice.

There is also no way of actually putting ship class/type/design vs same, without getting into a balance issue. IE, most escorts could not solo a cruiser, just that simple.

Most likely, if they do just make it a playable "race", it'll be like Fed Klingons, just a reskin, nothing new.
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# 5
05-04-2010, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Arcian_Darkrobe View Post
They'd screw it up. Being honest, but Lyrans were a race, that used heavy amount of fighters/carrier tactics. Just look at the KDF carrier, I think not. If it were done right, I'd be all for that, Tholian, Kzinti, ISC, Adroms, Romulans, Dominion, and the like. They'd add some nice tactics and fresh views for players, even if they were still on a faction (2 side game, Fed/KDF)

That all said, in all honesty, the games lacks the core mechanics to make a lot of races, worth a damn. Either due to no 360 movement, or that speed and turn rates equate only to weapon arc time on target. A player can't do 1/2 the stuff, that would actually be used, nor do they do some of the current weapon systems any justice.

There is also no way of actually putting ship class/type/design vs same, without getting into a balance issue. IE, most escorts could not solo a cruiser, just that simple.

Most likely, if they do just make it a playable "race", it'll be like Fed Klingons, just a reskin, nothing new.
I would be fine with reskins on some ships, just add a weapon type bonus. Lets say the Klingon carrier had a disruptor damage buff (as it should) and the Hydran carrier reskin would have a buff to hellbores (Hellbores would be awesome!), the Gorn cruiser would not have cloak but would have a boost to hull and shield, just give it a weapon damage "debuff". That should handle the balance issue. Some ships should even have certain restrictions to weapon type.

They have to add new space, the Tholians, Gorn, Hydran and Lyran are all bordering Klingon space so it should fit into a cannon-ish feel. Just think of how fun it would be to Tholian Web those pesky little Feds!
Since all these ships would be without cloak it might even make for some unique PvP making the Klingon ships the Rogues on the battleground.
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# 6
05-04-2010, 09:09 AM
Hydrans and Lyrans are from the Star Fleet Universe, not what STO uses for canon.

Try Star Fleet Battles Online if you want Lyrans and Hydrans.
http://www.sfbonline.com/index.jsp
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# 7
05-04-2010, 12:40 PM
I dont mind these idea's. Though Id rather have open PvP sectors and decent non mind numbing PvE content (instead of kill 20 fed or romulan missions 100 times). Also add a thought provoking crafting and resource gathering systems.
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# 8
05-04-2010, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by STObee
Hydrans and Lyrans are from the Star Fleet Universe, not what STO uses for canon.

Try Star Fleet Battles Online if you want Lyrans and Hydrans.
http://www.sfbonline.com/index.jsp
Exactly right. I would like to see some elements of SFB incorporated into STO, but it doesn't appear that will be likely.
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# 9
05-04-2010, 02:04 PM
why not just conquer both and be done with it. that are jeghpu'wI after all, and will never have a seat on the High Council
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# 10
05-04-2010, 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by STObee
Hydrans and Lyrans are from the Star Fleet Universe, not what STO uses for canon.

Try Star Fleet Battles Online if you want Lyrans and Hydrans.
http://www.sfbonline.com/index.jsp
Thank you for the info, to be honest I am fully aware of the fact they are not canon. I do think it can be done though. If you want to go by canon then just remove the Hydran and Lyran and have us join forces with Mirror Universe Klingons and give me Worf's giant Neg'Var. I'm still a little confused on what STO uses as canon.
Is it canon to have so many alien types? For instance the 7 foot tall Na'vi (from Avatar) Fed ship captains that run around, or perhaps the Romulans and leprechauns I see all over Qo'noS. (Haha sorry I think it's funny)

I understand that Cryptic might have an issue with rights but I'm sure CBS has some pull.

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why not just conquer both and be done with it. that are jeghpu'wI after all, and will never have a seat on the High Council
You make a great point! It just fit the old story....well maybe not them getting a seat in the council.
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