Lt. Commander
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Originally Posted by Flato View Post
Im sick of all these bonus rewards earned for providing cryptic with money, IE buy multiple pre order for unique items, recruit 5 friends who pay a month each earning cryptic dollars. How about actually putting some neat items in the game instead of the boring items already found. Preorder items, liberated Borg, uniforms should all be unlockable in game. Enough with trying to squeeze money out of us were paying customers add something fun in game. Its been suggested before but all those ship skins could have been some stf reward or bridges but all they want is money money money...................
I second the motion, every option from the C-store needs to be unlockable in-game somehow, whether it be as rewards for nearly impossible missions or purchasable with Energy credits or Merit.

Think about it, lifetime subs put their confidence into the devs that this game would be awesome, many of us did so without playing in the beta. Trusting, naively it turns out, you devs. We invested more than $270 dollars apiece(lifetime subscription and game), and now you guys are shoveling options into the C-store and promotional offers at a rate, that is, quite frankly, unbelievable.

And I do mean unbelievable. How long did it take you guys to develop the primary game? Now all these options are coming out, do you really think we'll believe it took you years to make the game, and now you guys can patch bugs, create new ships, new species, new missions, etc.. in weeks?

We're Star Trek fans, we're statistically more intelligent than the average geek, and we're wise to you, we can figure that you held back content to wring more money out of us, and we are angry.

I for one, refuse to buy anything out of the C-store, I refuse to buy more cryptic points, and I refuse to be told that my account, being a lifetime subscriber (who fully intends to play for years, trying out every species, every class, every faction, every build, etc..), isn't as important as some random wealthy player who is going to buy five more copies, make five dummy accounts, subscribe for a month each, and get 2000 cryptic points, two new titles, a holographic Tribble, a holographic bridge officer, and a new ship, in addition to whatever they shell out money for themselves out of the C-store?

I realize that the wealthy player is the lifeblood of your company, and I understand your desire to reward those players. But you should not be rewarding them for being lazy and going on spending sprees, and ignoring legitimate, hardworking and loyal players.

If it's in the C-store, it needs to be in the game, somehow, somewhere.

And I can tell you how to do it, and reward players who really play. The advanced cruisers, alternate hull configurations? Rewards for Engineers who beat a specific difficult mission solo.

Ditto for escorts and science vessels and tactical and science officers.

New bridge designs? Have us save shipyards from various species or natural phenomenon, come to think of it, that could work for new ships too..

General items? Fleet encounters, tough ones, Think "Holy Crap it's Wolf 359 all over again" tough ones, most deadly players (who cause the most damage) get one reward, most efficient players (highest damage dealt to damage taken ratio) get another. Player with the lowest damage taken gets yet another reward. In the unlikely event a player manages all three, they get all three.

I am a lifetime subscriber ($239.99), I own a Collectors edition of the game (~$70 at the time) as well as a normal copy (~40 at the time). For me, that was quite an investment. Now, people who haven't even paid half as much as I have can rapidly outpace me in the number of special options they accrue.

You've even made it so that anybody who subscribes for 400 days (one year, one month, and two weeks) gets access to the Captains Table, what was supposed to be a lifers only area, and quite frankly, it's crowded enough already, those of us who aren't running liquid cooled supercomputers already lag in most instances.

I don't have a problem with bonuses, I have a problem with bonuses handed out for cash, instead of effort. Reward players who play, as well as players who spend.
Lt. Commander
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# 32
05-03-2010, 11:59 PM
I think this is really smart marketing with very nice incentives.

Many people want the "3-Nacelles-Monster-Enterprise". Holo Tribble (lol?), 400 C-Store points etc., etc...
The access to the Captain's table after 400 days is also very cool, I am not a lifer, but who knows, I might stay subbed this long.

Now let's see how I can convince 5 more people to sub to STO.
I know some people already invited people and now feel they should have "waited", but well, that's life.
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# 33
05-04-2010, 01:19 AM
i want that enterprise BUT id have to once again grind a charictor up to use it -_-
since im 99.9% sure i cant use it as a klingon -_- and i HATE GRINDING so i probbly wont bother,.. unless there is a easy and fast lvling guide somewhere
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# 34
05-04-2010, 01:22 AM
*sings* Gonnaaaa give the bf the game as a bday present... He doesn't waaaaant it but it he must say thanks no matter whaaaaaaaaat.
(and then dump him once Chat gets her holographic BO)

Pretty evil that way. <---innocent smile



Other than that... Nice.
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# 35
05-04-2010, 01:32 AM
How do we know how many days we've had an account for? A "number of days" on the Account page would be handy.
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# 36
05-04-2010, 01:33 AM
Titles and C-store points are fine. I'm really annoyed over adding Boffs and Ship variants to this.

Also ditto to the guy above who is upset over everything going into the C-store. At the very least you should be able to earn C-store points in game. Maybe get one point every time you complete and Episode or STF while at the Skill cap or something. then everything in there WOULD be unlockable in game eventually and I wouldn't care so much that everything is getting dumped in the C-store. I bought a lifetime account so I wouldn't have to worry about paying for STO outside of expansions for its lifetime.

It is extremely irksome for these ship variants and new races to be put in the c-store. How many of these things are you putting into patches for everyone else? If it was every once in a great while I wouldn't mind. Klingons in the federation through the C-store makes sense to me. a Vulcan in the KDF through the C-store would also make sense to me. It's something that wouldn't normally be possible. Tellarites in the Fedration through the C-store? Excuse me?

Now you want me to pull more people into this? I've played and enjoyed games with a micro-transaction model. ******** and DDO. Of the two DDO has a subscription model. When you subscribe to DDO Alot of things that are normally locked are opened up to you. In addition spending any money opens up certain features for you that will not go away. Also buying a subscription will net you alot of points to spend at teh store every month. Not to mention actual gameplay itself gets you some points.

In STO you want both it both ways. Everytime you guys do this you are ticking people off. You advertise additions to the C-store on the calendar as though it's the greatest thing ever. I could understand if this was CoX and we are 6 years down the line. We aren't. Hell we are about three months in and you are already offering free weekends? You can't be that hard up for money.

Something Super special in the C-store is something other MMO's do. Again Ill reference CoX. The have costumes and special perks inside certain packs. Even so they are still adding emotes, costumes, powersets to the main game without requiring a micro transaction. They also didn't even start doing that until a couple years ago. You guys don't add anything normally and I see no intention of it ever stopping. Why in hell would I recommend this to anyone? The game we have isn't even in a finished state and alot of fluff is being added as something you have to pay even more money for. To say nothing of content. Last time you guys added content was when you opened up the Borg sector 3 months ago.

Do I care about the Holographic officer or Enterprise-D variant. Not really. The holographic Boff should be something we get randomly as a possible recruit but a special officer with a unique trait as a reward wouldn't bother me. You don't go that route though. I feel the same with Borg Boffs.

So anyway. Why in hell should I recruit anyone to this game? I care about my friends much more than that. Just from a core gameplay standpoint. I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone. Fix you game first. Get it out of Beta then maybe you'll have a leg to stand on to ask me to do your marketing departments job. Also maybe get a little bit of a reputation for releasing stuff normally and stopping wiht all thsi C-store and promotional crap.
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# 37
05-04-2010, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Inquizitor View Post
Titles and C-store points are fine. I'm really annoyed over adding Boffs and Ship variants to this.
It sickens me at this point.
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# 38
05-04-2010, 02:08 AM
I too am a little ticked over this. Like other lifers, I spent a lot of money up front, without any real idea how long the game will last. I did it because I love Star Trek, and have always wanted to captain my own ship. I have rarely spoken out against Cryptic, thinking that with time the game will get better and I'll want to keep playing, even though at this moment I'm a little bored with it and I haven't even reached RA5. To then see these rewards being doled out just to get more money and try to convince us to sell our word to get more rewards is disgusting. These rewards should be available in the C-store as well, and earn-able in game.

This crap is getting ridiculous. And then to offer access to the Captain's Table, which was supposed to be life exclusive, is a slap in the face. I mean, I can't even convince my friends to play because they aren't stupid and have read the reviews on this game, and realize its not exactly worth an investment right now. This stuff is ridiculous, and I'm tired of it. But of course this will be ignored, us lifers have no say anymore since they already got our money.
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# 39
05-04-2010, 02:12 AM
I personaly don't care about any of the perks for lifetime. The fact that they are limiteing fluff to other players andin the case of quasi-content like the Captains table isn't right either. All I wanted wiht a lifetime menbership was a permenant subscription to STO that I bought with the experience of how MMO's with a subscription model normally work.
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# 40
05-04-2010, 02:43 AM
I already have 5 friends ready to go, ohh cant wait to be flying that new tier5 ship *dances* i hope it cloaks too :0
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