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Lt. Commander
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# 191
05-04-2010, 01:17 PM
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Lt. Commander
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# 192
05-04-2010, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Leviathan99
I kinda hope so. I signed on for a new Star Trek era, not a TNG/DS9/Voyager Greatest Hits game.
I agree fully.
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# 193
05-04-2010, 01:20 PM
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Then why does WoW do a similar program?
I have absolutely no clue, syber. I'm not talking about WoW. I've never played WoW (with the exception of about a half hour in their trial, at which point I decided I'd never play it again).

That said, however, apparently WoW has the ability to do it because it's such a popular game. It's got to be popular for a reason. I don't know. Probably it has the five or six years of content to be able to sustain its 11.5 million subscribers, and have some of them refer friends who don't find it as mind-scrapingly dull and empty of content as STO.

Oh, and they only have to refer one friend.

That could be why. But I'm just guessing.
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# 194
05-04-2010, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Leviathan99
I kinda hope so. I signed on for a new Star Trek era, not a TNG/DS9/Voyager Greatest Hits game.
Well I don't want that either, but in my opinion this new era looks like so much crap (visually)... so far.

For example, out of all the Cryptic specific Ship Designs I only sort of like one (Typhoon Battleship), and only few specific parts from customizable ships. I'm not saying my tastes speak for anyone but myself, but I've been disappointed that I haven't found much of anything likeable that is new is this era so far.
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# 195
05-04-2010, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dstahl View Post

The 3-Nacelle Future Enterprise config will be an exclusive variant of a T5 Galaxy ship we are planning to add to the game as we increase the skillcap at various points in the future. In fact I see plans on the schedule to add T5 versions of the Galaxy, Intrepid, and Defiant class.

So yes - the Future Enterprise - 3 Nacelle config is an exclusive "variant" and may be the only T5 Galaxy for a while, but there will be ways to get similar ships in the future - they just might not have the 3rd Nacelle - or front mount single phaser cannon.
Heres an idea, how about you add that T5 Defiant, Galaxy and Intrepid that the ENTIRE playerbase can acquire before this exclusive deal, eh ?
Does this T5 Defiant come with a Cloak
Does the T5 Intrepid come with batmobile armor ?

I dont think so because these T5 ships are meant to be balanced within their own Tier thus mr. Exclusive Galaxy X gets an enhanced Phaser Split-Beam cannon power while everyone else gets nothing.

What about everyone else, what about people that want an exclusive Tactical ship or Exclusive Science vessel ?
Is it going to be a universal station ship to allow BOTH T5 specailties to be fully explored or is this going to be the first in a new T6 class ?

The latter just means those who get this offer will be in T6 cruisers before the rest of the playerbase can get them. I'm sure that wouldnt be a source of imbalance if perhaps a ship thats for RA10 is available for RA5s while everyone else is flying around in their current form.

Leaving aside the disgusting marketing practice being used here, its a stupid reward. Your only going to be able to take advantage of this reward to the FULL extent if:

Your an Engineer - Might change if they allow tradeable boffs that way you can get boffs with high skills from other professions.

Your a cruiser pilot - Escorts and Science pilots can get stuffed apparantly...

Your a Federation player - Sucks to be a Klingon, Romulan... [insert playabale race here]

At least the Tribble and Holo BO are UNIVERSAL rewards that everyone could use equally. This ship should be a C-Store item AT BEST or replace the captain's yaht as the Vet Reward. Along with 2 other special Vet Rewards for Science and Escort at the same time. That way EVERYONE benefits.
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# 196
05-04-2010, 01:37 PM
Imo the Defiant should have cloak.
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# 197
05-04-2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Grey_Ghost
Well I don't want that either, but in my opinion this new era looks like so much crap (visually)... so far.

For example, out of all the Cryptic specific Ship Designs I only sort of like one (Typhoon Battleship), and only few specific parts from customizable ships. I'm not saying my tastes speak for anyone but myself, but I've been disappointed that I haven't found much of anything likeable that is new is this era so far.
...you like the Typhoon? It looks like a tongue depressor, and then those weird kinda-clustered nacelles...

On the other hand, give me a Hope/Horizon hybrid any day, Space Whales are my friends, the Polaris is all spiky like it's got antennae everywhere, the Hephaestus is truly worthy of being named for the God of the Forge...
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# 198
05-04-2010, 01:42 PM
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I have absolutely no clue, syber. I'm not talking about WoW. I've never played WoW (with the exception of about a half hour in their trial, at which point I decided I'd never play it again).

That said, however, apparently WoW has the ability to do it because it's such a popular game. It's got to be popular for a reason. I don't know. Probably it has the five or six years of content to be able to sustain its 11.5 million subscribers, and have some of them refer friends who don't find it as mind-scrapingly dull and empty of content as STO.

Oh, and they only have to refer one friend.

That could be why. But I'm just guessing.
It's not just WoW. Most MMOs have some type of Referral Program. LotRO, ****, DDO, and CoH, for example, give you 1 free month of play for each person you refer. WAR gives you 30 free days and pets and in-game items. EQ2 gives the 30 days and various free items. Referral Programs are extremely common in the industry and have nothing to do with the size of the fan-base. Ultimately every MMO wants more players whether it's WoW with its millions of subscribers or everyone else.
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# 199
05-04-2010, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic_One View Post
It's not just WoW. Most MMOs have some type of Referral Program. LotRO, ****, DDO, and CoH, for example, give you 1 free month of play for each person you refer. WAR gives you 30 free days and pets and in-game items. EQ2 gives the 30 days and various free items. Referral Programs are extremely common in the industry and have nothing to do with the size of the fan-base. Ultimately every MMO wants more players whether it's WoW with its millions of subscribers or everyone else.
SWG has a similar program going on as well.
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# 200
05-04-2010, 02:00 PM
The fact that other MMOs pull stunts like this does not give everyone else a pass to try getting their players to participate in a pyramid scheme. it's still bad form, and overtly predatory on your customer base.

And the Galaxy Refit is pretty much the one 'canon' ship from the time period Cryptic's chosen that players have wanted since before launch. Restricting this ship to shills and spammers is something more like telling a WoW player that playing as an Elf is only unlocked through referrals (Or something outrageous like that. Never played Wow, don't care to learn about it). Or telling a SWG player that you unlock the Millenium Falcon through referrals.
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