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Lt. Commander
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# 31
05-03-2010, 07:30 PM
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Believe me when I say that you DON'T want to get sarcastic with me. The last player that did that got severely chewed out. I am already in a really bad mood because my power supply died, so I for one don't feel like getting my first infraction, so please, stop while you know what's good for you.
wow. hello there mr. internet tough guy. threaten people much?
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# 32
05-03-2010, 07:42 PM
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wow. hello there mr. internet tough guy. threaten people much?
I was being civil in this discussion. You weren't. It is very difficult to get me angry, as I am a very laid-back and easy going guy. Flaming my posts when I'm already in a bad-mood is one of the few things that can set me off. I wasn't being an internet tough guy, as an internet tough guy is someone who purposefully starts things over the internet because the anonymity makes them feel tough. I don't need anonymity to go off on people during the rare occurrences where something sets me off.

When I am being civil in a conversation, I expect others to be civil as well. Being sarcastic because you don't agree with someone's views makes you look like the fool. In the future, I would highly suggest that you discuss things with a civil tongue on these forums, if you don't wish to get an infraction for flaming.

I bid you all adieu as I am getting off to watch some Voyager. I hope to see a dev response soon.
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# 33
05-03-2010, 07:43 PM
lol just like the captains table was for lifers only and we seen where that went. so in the fullness of time this ship to will be out thier for the reg space guy to own for a small cp payout at you hud pulldown menue. and dont make me angry or i will use my large brain to make you get a mental picture of joan rivers naked you have been warned
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# 34
05-03-2010, 07:52 PM
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because you don't agree with someone's views makes you look like the fool.
now who is flaming?
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# 35
05-03-2010, 07:56 PM
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wow. hello there mr. internet tough guy. threaten people much?
You baited the guy first.

I think he's right that rewards like the AGT Galaxy class should be obtainable through other means because getting 5 other people to buy and subscribe to STO is not just a difficult task, it's impossible for some people(they may have friends who already subscribed, or friends who don't want to, or no friends at all, etc). No in-game asset should be impossible to obtain, just difficult. Hell if they made it cost the same price in C store points as 5 months of subscription time, I'd be happy with that.

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now who is flaming?
He isn't. He stated a fact about your attitude.

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# 36
05-03-2010, 08:05 PM
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Same, and if I were Cryptic, 20 bucks worth of points would be the C-store price I would use. It needs to be igh enough to control the population, high enough so that those that do unlock it through referrals don't feel ripped off, and low enough so that everyone could potentially afford it. 15 or 20 sounds right to me.
20 is probably low compared to a game purchase and a month's subscription. Realistically, if they were to do this without undercutting the referral program, it would have to be $50 worth of C-Store points and that's just for a one subscriber reward.

For me, I won't go out of my way for this but I may offer any of my actual close friends to buy their first months worth of recurring gametime for them or something to get them to stay long enough for the reward. That's if they were inclined to buy the game anyway.
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# 37
05-03-2010, 08:09 PM
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For those that haven't heard yet, the rewards for the referral Program have been announced. A holographic bridge officer is the reward for 1 friend buying a 1 month subscription, and The All Good Things Galaxy class variant will be the reard for 5 friends buying 1 month subscriptions. Now many players have wanted to see this ship in-game, but this will make it almost impossible to get. Many of us don't have friends that like Star Trek to begin with, and for those that do, many of them have already recruited their friends through CE buddy cards and other means. This will make the class all but impossible to obtain for many players. I propose 1 of two ideas for fixing this problem:
  • Switch the 400 day veteran reward, the Captain's Yacht with the All Good Things Galaxy, since all players can obtain the 400 day reward. Or make it a 500 day reward.
  • Make the All Good Things Galaxy available in the C-store for a premium fee at the same time the first few players unlock it through the Referral Program.

I for one have done everything I can to support Cryptic and improve this game, and though the devs have done other controversial things in the past, I have stuck by them for the sake of the game. However, this is the first things they've done that could break the game for me. If this isn't remedied, I for one might end up leaving STO.
Once again, I find myself agreeing overwhelmingly with Shikamaru. This time I'm a little fired up because it seems like Cryptic/Atari go to great lengths to figure out what stuff Trekkers want most and then attach strings to them and say "Dance for us and jump through these hoops if you want them." Always in an effort to garner more box sales, which is all this is. Its another money grab. Every time Cryptic/Atari does it, some marketing person shows up confused about why we would *ever* think that. I feel so stupid for having bought into their spin before. I used to think they were just new, that they didn't really know how whatever it was they were screwing up before could be perceived negatively. Now, I think perhaps Cryptic/Atari really does think we are that stupid.

Just wait, in a day or so, when they have had time to properly spin this issue someone like Rekhan will show up, with an official announcement apologizing that we yet again misunderstood the most benevolent of intentions of Cryptic/Atari. Look more closlier and you will see the word "special" instead of "exclusive" and that means we fully intend to let everyone have access to it via the C-Store when CBS/Paramount/Viacom (or any other entity that they want to blame it on this time) will allow them but that they had a contractual obligation of some sort.

Behavior like this is why I canceled my account. Just be upfront with your customers, most of us would gladly pay a premium price for a really well designed canon vessel if you put it on the C-Store instead of this crap where you try to trick people into getting you more box sales and subs.
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# 38
05-03-2010, 08:35 PM
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You baited the guy first with your idiotic trolling.

I think he's right that rewards like the AGT Galaxy class should be obtainable through other means because getting 5 other people to buy and subscribe to STO is not just a difficult task, it's impossible for some people(they may have friends who already subscribed, or friends who don't want to, or no friends at all, etc). No in-game asset should be impossible to obtain, just difficult. Hell if they made it cost the same price in C store points as 5 months of subscription time, I'd be happy with that.



He isn't. He stated a fact about your attitude. I however will happily flame.

Shikamaru was wrong about one thing: He treated you, the cretinous troll with enough respect to tell you to start acting like an adult, rather than ignoring you from the moment you revealed your nature.
grow up. the only "trolls" here are you and that other guy.
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# 39
05-03-2010, 08:43 PM
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I am already in a really bad mood because my power supply died, so I for one don't feel like getting my first infraction, so please, stop while you know what's good for you.
Off Topic but I have a power supply you can have if you want to pay shipping

On Topic, I agree 100% and have contemplated buying 5 boxes and 5 subs but I am not going to do exactly what Cryptic wants, just like buying multiple copies of pre order boxes to have the items later released for free.
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# 40
05-03-2010, 08:55 PM
I already replied to the other thread about this before I got around to reading this one. I would like to see it available some other way, because I am a disable shut-in (ftw) who barely even knows that many people let alone people who would play this game. If not, then oh well. I won't cry or beg or what have you because it's just some pixels in a game. Not gonna hurt my feelings one bit either way. Just adding my voice to the "Make it available Elsewhere" camp.
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