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Lt. Commander
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# 621
05-06-2010, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by the_illustrious_q
It's funny how that same mentality can be applied to you. The whole no listening bit.
I'd like to see you explain how.
Lt. Commander
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# 622
05-06-2010, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sivar View Post
Or the game is getting to a point where Cryptic is confident enough to start the game up with the content that they have coming.
Sorry, no deal. When the game ACTUALLY HAS enough content, then we'll talk.

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As for the "they all do it" speech as you put it, answer me this, how many MMOs were doing it [b]before[/i] Blizzard was successful in their referral program? How many MMOs even had one years before Blizzard made theirs? I honestly don't know who came out with he first one. (gonna go see if I can find out....)
I don't know, and I don't care. The point is, Blizzard did it at a point when the game had a huge amount of content, when people could recommend it based on that fact alone.
That should be the standard for referral programs.
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# 623
05-06-2010, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
Jnoh. Here's all I have to say to you.

People will not be speaking of STO in a positive light.
They will be going "Please man, just buy the game and sub for one month. You don't even have to play it, just do this favour for me so I can get the awesome ship. PLEASE. If we're really friends you'll do it."
I understand that.

I didn't mean to say the plan is a good one, just that its not about $200... the intention and hope is that people posting "come play STO" is positive enough, and to a degree, people like me WILL be posting in a positive light - I'M HAVING FUN HERE*

*(when not on the forums)

I also know any advocacy for the game I have will be highly tempered with things like "don't bother playing Klingon, its sort of still in Beta but they pushed it live anyway" and "the game is still Young, but they make headway regularly and some really cool things have come out recently" and finally "you'll get at least 60 days of play from the game in its present state" Which is speaking more to the $25 box + $15 month.
Lt. Commander
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# 624
05-06-2010, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
Sorry, no deal. When the game ACTUALLY HAS enough content, then we'll talk.
You're not paying attention man. Cryptic hasn't even started the referral program (the site for it isn't up and running), they only announced it and there is more content ON THE WAY. You're so drawn into your disappointment that this game isn't exactly what you wanted it to be that nothing Cryptic does is going to satisfy you......

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Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
I don't know, and I don't care. The point is, Blizzard did it at a point when the game had a huge amount of content, when people could recommend it based on that fact alone.
That should be the standard for referral programs.
You know that whole "LA LA LA LA LA" quote that you edited my post to saying really applies to you here too.....
Lt. Commander
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# 625
05-06-2010, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sivar View Post
You're not paying attention man. Cryptic hasn't even started the referral program (the site for it isn't up and running), they only announced it and there is more content ON THE WAY. You're so drawn into your disappointment that this game isn't exactly what you wanted it to be that nothing Cryptic does is going to satisfy you......
That has no bearing on the fact that the game now is unsatisfactory and all we have is vague promises of improvement. Season 2 does not offer THAT much as it stands now.
A referral program should come after at least a year of content for players to truly give an unbiased recommendation.

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You know that whole "LA LA LA LA LA" quote that you edited my post to saying really applies to you here too.....
How so? I'm making a point of regardless of what MMO started this kind of referral program, at least Blizzard does it right.
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# 626
05-06-2010, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jnoh
..... people like me WILL be posting in a positive light - I'M HAVING FUN HERE*......
1player having fun to every 247 not happy with it.

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Lt. Commander
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# 627
05-06-2010, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
I'd like to see you explain how.
Alrighty then. You, and quite a decent number of others on both sides, are so completely convinced that you are right in this regard that every point and counter point made on either side is being ignored and responded to with posts that when summed up equal this.

"You're wrong. Here's the reasons that you already responded to as to why you are wrong."

You have been doing this the whole time I have been reading these threads, your changing of Sivar's post to read "Not Listening LA LA LA LA LA LA." only proves that this mind set of yours is already set in stone and that anything that any says here is totally and completely wrong.

It's been the same reasons, the same responses, time and again, coming from both sides, and individuals on both sides, for three days straight! I am getting a massive migraine from all the constant yelling, and bickering, and ignoring each other in favor of continuing to supports your own arguments instead of trying to find reasonable and thought out responses to those arguments.

And before anyone says I should just exercise my freewill and choose not to come into these threads anymore, let me point out this one thing. This is the hot topic discussion item in STO right now. It would be foolish to simply ignore it.
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# 628
05-06-2010, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
I don't know, and I don't care. The point is, Blizzard did it at a point when the game had a huge amount of content, when people could recommend it based on that fact alone.
That should be the standard for referral programs.
Alright I did some looking around and I can't find any reference to a referral program to ANY game before Blizzard did it. A number of other similar programs popped up with various games after they did it and were successful, which if it holds true (if anybody can find somebody who did it before Blizzard please feel free to correct me), means that Blizzard came up with the idea.

That means they didn't wait 2 years to do the program, it means it took them 2 years to come up with the idea for the program in the first place. They didn't wait because they thought the game was unfinished or anything, they did it right when they thought up the idea, which just happened to be a few years into the game, meaning your argument is invalid.....
Lt. Commander
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# 629
05-06-2010, 07:53 AM
This is NOT the kind of TRANSPARENCY that ZINC was talking about? Ummmm.......no its not

I did not see a poll or a lets ask the player base how they feel about this idea? This is going over about as well as the "advisory council". You guys might want to try the front page test, If you think the player base would be upset and writing threads on threads about....its probably a bad idea. Or PM me I will give some feed back.

CRYPTIC is you marketing team run by KARL ROVE? Will we be soon looking for fictitious WMD's in the SOL SYSTEM? You marketing team must be way out of touch with the player base and any form of reality in this time line!

So far your definition of transparency is clear as (Harry)MUDD
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Lt. Commander
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# 630
05-06-2010, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by the_illustrious_q
Alrighty then. You, and quite a decent number of others on both sides, are so completely convinced that you are right in this regard that every point and counter point made on either side is being ignored and responded to with posts that when summed up equal this.

"You're wrong. Here's the reasons that you already responded to as to why you are wrong."

You have been doing this the whole time I have been reading these threads, your changing of Sivar's post to read "Not Listening LA LA LA LA LA LA." only proves that this mind set of yours is already set in stone and that anything that any says here is totally and completely wrong.

It's been the same reasons, the same responses, time and again, coming from both sides, and individuals on both sides, for three days straight! I am getting a massive migraine from all the constant yelling, and bickering, and ignoring each other in favor of continuing to supports your own arguments instead of trying to find reasonable and thought out responses to those arguments.

And before anyone says I should just exercise my freewill and choose not to come into these threads anymore, let me point out this one thing. This is the hot topic discussion item in STO right now. It would be foolish to simply ignore it.
My changing of Sivar's post was in response to that post being the typical "Cryptic is doing fine" spiel that is simply not true.
I read the points of the pro-Galaxy X referral people and counter every one, meanwhile you sit there complaining about people being angry with it.
Tough. It's a bad decision. We have every right to be appalled.
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