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# 31
05-06-2010, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The.Grand.Nagus View Post
If you mean those numbers only represent the forum folks, then your right. However, beyond that their not "skewed". And as I replied the last time you said something similar(which you didnt respond to):
I've been away from the forums and my computer for several hours. Can't I miss something when I just get back?

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"However, the reality of the matter is that most of the changes that have been made to the game are a direct result of forum feedback, since the Devs have not held any in game polls. I wish they would, but until then all their going to get is the feedback from the people on the forums."
True, and really the only way to get decent information from a poll on the forums is if it is run by Cryptic and not the fans as those polls tend to get far more of a response than browser created polls. The main reason for this would be users choice to avoid threads in which there is going to a vastly large amount of trolling and rather related to an issue they would rather not talk about. This is either for fear of getting their head bitten off if they voted one way or another. Another thing to consider about your poll is this... it is computer IP locked rather than forum ID locked. Theoretically that means that all one has to do to vote twice, or more, is to move from one computer to another or if one is computer savy enough fool the marker into thinking your computer has different IP addresses. You do not have this problem with Cryptic run polls since there is only 1 vote per user account.

What does that mean? It means that the poll that you set up is invalid and the data unreliable due to this flaw in the system.
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# 32
05-06-2010, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
I don't care what you consider familiar or not.
I'm sick and tired of people demanding exclusives and gloating while Cryptic turns us into a band of haves and have nots.

I would never want others to miss out on something they truly want merely because they're being asked to do the impossible.
Do unto others as you would expect them to do unto you.
I am merely stating that these are the exact same arguments going back and forth and back and forth with no change. That is all.
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# 33
05-06-2010, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gladius_Bonaparte
It was an authenticator used to protect your account. You got a non-combat Corehound if you had an authenticator. That being said, the Corehound didn't let cloak or change your character skin. If you want a reasonable comparison, then instead of the Galaxy-X you get a New Buffed Tribble! Though that would still improve combat (ground) and even the Corehound didn't do that, it was purely cosmetic.
Ty for that, I really couldnt remember what the item was or what it gave, never the less it proves my point. It could of been just cosmetic but it was something that was given as a "gift" if you shall for buying the authenticator. No other way in obtaining one of those. Same goes with the RAF items...


OY! lol

*drinks his soda* Mmmmm
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# 34
05-06-2010, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by the_illustrious_q
True, and really the only way to get decent information from a poll on the forums is if it is run by Cryptic and not the fans as those polls tend to get far more of a response than browser created polls.
By that logic, the only way to get decent information is in threads created by Cryptic too, as they tend to get more of a response than regular community created threads. And since this thread isnt created by Cryptic, I guess there is no "decent information" here.

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Originally Posted by the_illustrious_q
The main reason for this would be users choice to avoid threads in which there is going to a vastly large amount of trolling and rather related to an issue they would rather not talk about. This is either for fear of getting their head bitten off if they voted one way or another.
Except for the fact that you dont even have to post in the thread to vote in the poll. Therefore you can vote however you like and not have to worry about a person A) even knowing you voted or B) arguing with you about the choice you made.

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Originally Posted by the_illustrious_q
Another thing to consider about your poll is this... it is computer IP locked rather than forum ID locked. Theoretically that means that all one has to do to vote twice, or more, is to move from one computer to another or if one is computer savy enough fool the marker into thinking your computer has different IP addresses. You do not have this problem with Cryptic run polls since there is only 1 vote per user account.
The great thing about the little holes in the system is they apply equally to both sides. Just as sure is there is some fanatic on one side of the issue who would try to sway the votes, there are people equally fanatic about the other side. That being the case, they wind up negating themselves. And as it turns out, regardless of any fanatics on both sides, the poll still shows the vast majority of folks want an alternative means of getting the ship.

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What does that mean? It means that the poll that you set up is invalid and the data unreliable due to this flaw in the system.
Of course it is...because you are in the minority vote. If the side you favored was winning, you would think the poll was great.
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# 35
05-06-2010, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xXLocutusXx
Hmm seems you bought all those.... would it stand to reason that more things would require to be bought
You're not even making sense.

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Empathy...thats for the week. Give it a rest. If you had sooo much Empathy you would be forking out everyone a lifetime sub so there equals
I believe you mean weak. And no, it isn't. If you can't have empathy for your fellow players, then you must lead a very lonely life.
The only difference between a lifer and a subber is that I paid up front and they pay monthly. Due to my larger investment, I got certain priviledges. Great.
Should others get these priviledges for free? No. Should they get them through in-game effort or a fee depending on the item? Hell yes.

Same with the Galaxy X. Exclusives are for the birds.
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# 36
05-06-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt.Expendable
You're not even making sense.



I believe you mean weak. And no, it isn't. If you can't have empathy for your fellow players, then you must lead a very lonely life.
The only difference between a lifer and a subber is that I paid up front and they pay monthly. Due to my larger investment, I got certain priviledges. Great.
Should others get these priviledges for free? No. Should they get them through in-game effort or a fee depending on the item? Hell yes.

Same with the Galaxy X. Exclusives are for the birds.
Ty spell checker

Actually I dont lead a lonely life. Very busy one at that. One with friends again why i can recruit 5 people to this game so easily..like others can.

As to those questions you asked yourself and aswered yourself...

No. No, any item that was given do to a promotion, or package deal should be kept exclusive to those who purshased said item or items. If you wanted said items you should of forked out the cash during the time they had allowed to get it or done what they requested you to get said item or items. Snooze you lose

Exclusives are for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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# 37
05-06-2010, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The.Grand.Nagus View Post
By that logic, the only way to get decent information is in threads created by Cryptic too, as then tend to get more of a response than regular community created threads.
Uh no. Regular community threads are important to the growth of the game, as the tend to address issues and come to a consensus on the issue at hand more often than not. User created polls however don't tend to do this as the polls usually lean in one direction or the other and if one simply looks at the poll numbers any and all discussion about that topic would be a moot point.

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Except for the fact that you dont even have to post in the thread to vote in the poll. Therefore you can vote however you like and not have to worry about a person A) even knowing you voted or B) arguing with you about the choice you made.
True but there is the fear of being back tracked to your home computer by a decent enough hacker and from there it wouldn't be too long before the harassing started or worse.

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Originally Posted by The.Grand.Nagus View Post
The great thing about the little holes in the system is they apply equally to both sides. Just as sure is there is some fanatic on one side of the issue who would try to sway the votes, there are people equally fanatic about the other side. That being the case, they wind up negating themselves. And as it turns out, regardless of any fanatics on both sides, the poll still shows the vast majority of folks want an alternative means of getting the ship.
Yes it does, and if I weren't working on a paper right now you'd see the votes increase by over 100 votes in two hours.

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Of course it is...because you are in the minority vote. If the side you favored was winning, you would think the poll was great.
Wrong I actually voted to make it non-exclusive. I actually voted with the majority and still think the poll is invalid.
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# 38
05-06-2010, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by xXLocutusXx
Hmm seems you bought all those.... would it stand to reason that more things would require to be bought

Empathy...thats for the week. Give it a rest. If you had sooo much Empathy you would be forking out everyone a lifetime sub so there equals
(Gods, I'm going to khest'n regret this, but)

It does not entirely stand to reason that more should be bought for this game. As has been said before, you are paying a monthly subscription to a game (or have paid a year or lifetime subscription) in particular to a game that unfortunately did not release with all the content that it should have, a game that Cryptic was contractually obligated to release in half the time of a normal MMO development cycle. I would not deny a reward to someone for bringing in five people and managing to keep them here for two months (the 30-day trial and one monthly billing cycle,) that's a heck of an achievement. I would probably not begrudge them the Galaxy-X, weird bird that it is. But what about the content for the people who just want to play the game? I'm not talking about giving everyone Galaxy-Xen; just the episodes, sectors, ships, what-have-you for the people who are just playing the game. I think we can agree that there's just not enough of that 'normal' content... and that you should expect a pretty good chunk of content (which should have been in the game but wasn't yadda yadda yadda you've heard it before) by dint of paying for the retail box and the monthly subscription.

As for empathy... your statement about empathy being for the weak is incorrect. But this is not the place to argue philosophy and metaphysics.
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# 39
05-06-2010, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by xXLocutusXx
Exclusives are for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
If you feed the troll after midnight it becomes ugly, ravenous and evil. So for the love of god, quit feeding it lol!
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# 40
05-06-2010, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by xXLocutusXx
Well.. i was thinking to myself with all the Keep the Galaxy not posts I thought it was time for something abit more realistic. Keep it exclusive Cryptic, its a great idea, I love it. All ready have my buddys in on this and there ready to go and try the game out. Im sure there are many many others out there like me that were able to find 5 people they know and get them to try your game. Here here for the exclusive item you have put into the mix, cant wait to fly it around with everyone else who managed to get one.

I hope to see more things like this in the future, that are Exclusive. Love yah Cryptic *hugs and kisses from all your fans* <3

Locutus

*flame shield ON!*
Alright, I'm duckign out for a Iron Man/Iron Man 2 double feature (I heard it sucked... meh.), so I'll make this quick, then let the fight rage obn without me being a stick in the mud...


I dont agree.

Kinda.

I mean, I do agree, but the Galaxy-X? meh.


Keep SOMETHING as an ***exclusive*** reward for this. But shut these people up by pulling the X from it, if only because a) I think its a realy UGLY ship and I'd rather have something else as my exclusive reward for voulenteering to be your street-team, and b) er... maybe just a. Oh, no I remember - shut up the 5-10 people who are posting over and over and over and over... again about this to the point all other progress and constructive posts are drownd out.

Then ban them for insighting riots. (kidding, really)

Going to go off in my Elitist car and meet up with my Elitist friend to see a movie and talk his Elitist ear off about playing STO, elitely (sp?).
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