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# 61
05-12-2010, 01:59 AM
Simple compromise: Make a tradable C-Store item for those who have the MU uniforms that grants the MU uniforms to whoever uses it.
That way theres still another way to get it and those who are feeling generous enough can "share" the uniforms with who they want to.

Of course this could be promlematic too since it might promote RWT, but its an idea.
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# 62
05-12-2010, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by picardalpha2clearance View Post
I want it all. Give it to me.

My position is that the more exclusives you have in this game the less attractive it is to newer players. Thus taking the Trek feeling out of Star Trek. So lets not be so greedy about sharing some of them.
Fixed it for ya.

Sharing?

I purchased. If you purchase too, it's all yours.
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# 63
05-12-2010, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexraptor View Post
Simple compromise: Make a tradable C-Store item for those who have the MU uniforms that grants the MU uniforms to whoever uses it.
That way theres still another way to get it and those who are feeling generous enough can "share" the uniforms with who they want to.

Of course this could be promlematic too since it might promote RWT, but its an idea.
I appreciate you reasonable comments and I agree some compromise is needed.
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# 64
05-12-2010, 02:59 AM
The problem as I see it, is that you all want exclusives that everyone can get and that doesn't make them, exclusive, it makes them inclusive. If you have the lifetime in CO and have the mirror uniform, good for you. If you happened to join STO after that, oh well too bad for you. Let the flames of love begin.
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# 65
05-12-2010, 04:36 AM
And exclusives IMO do not belong in games, it is wrong.

There was a time when there was NO exclusives to games other than some fancier packaging and behind the scenes content.
But up until recently the actual game content of games was identical, and if it was not it could be obtained by anyone who wished it.

Exclusives is the bane of gaming as a whole and will only serve to alienate others.
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# 66
05-12-2010, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaruslothran View Post
Translation: "Give me for free what others paid for, because it is not fair that they have something that I do not have. In my perfect world, where you have to work to make the money to buy the item, I get it without the effort at all. This is my world..and it is perfect."

Exclusive.

We paid for it. We have it. We keep it. You want it.. ask Cryptic to put their lifetime sub offer back on CO.. and go buy a subscription.
Translation: Mine all mine muhahahahahahahahaha.. ginger kids dont share.
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# 67
05-12-2010, 04:42 AM
Paying for means: I give money for something I see and want.

I'm really sure the CO-lifetimers did see "Lifetime abo for Champions Online" = paying once for CO and not monthly. I bet they didnt even know about STO that times.
So they didnt pay for it, they payed for something else and got that as addidtion later.
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# 68
05-12-2010, 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexraptor View Post
Simple compromise: Make a tradable C-Store item for those who have the MU uniforms that grants the MU uniforms to whoever uses it.
That way theres still another way to get it and those who are feeling generous enough can "share" the uniforms with who they want to.

Of course this could be promlematic too since it might promote RWT, but its an idea.
So your simple compromise is that one person who feels generous could give it to the entire server for free? I don't think that sounds much like a compromise at all, sorry.

A vet reward past the 1 year mark is a good compromise.
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# 69
05-12-2010, 09:14 AM
Hey im just throwing out ideas.
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# 70
05-12-2010, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by picardalpha2clearance View Post
You Play Champions.......I do not. I play STO, the only thing I am complaining about in the above mentioned post is that I have been around since STO was still on the drawing boards, and I feel that it is unreasonable to ask me as a Prelaunch Investor to go buy a lifetime subscription to another game to get a set of uniforms. This unreasonable Champions promotion was the only one that asked you to spend 200+ dollars for something totally unrelated to STO for a set of uniforms. I call B.S. when I see it. In fact the other promotions were all offered to players of this game, not others. Once again thanks you proving all my point made in the above mentioned post beyond a reasonable doubt.

My position is that the more exclusives you have in this game the less attractive it is to newer players. Thus taking the Trek feeling out of Star Trek. So lets not be so greedy about sharing some of them.
What are you talking about? Lots of games have exclusives newer players can't get. WoW has put out a Collector's Edition for the original game and all it's expansions. With each one there's an exclusive pet you can only get by purchasing the CE. These usually sell out relatively quickly with no chance of getting it once it's sold out. It hasn't stopped Blizzard from having subscriptions through the roof.

And it's not like Cryptic is the first one to cross promote. Starcraft 2 is offering a WoW pet. if I want that pet, I'll buy the game. If I don't want the game, I won't complain that I couldn't get the pet, that simple. I know you're mad that you couldn't get the MU uniforms, but the truth is, it wasn't worth $200 and that's fine. I certainly didn't want that uniform $200 bad.

But I also don't mind that I don't have it. I knew what I had to do to get it and I passed. Same thing with the preorder bonuses. I didn't buy every single one for the freebies, I picked the one I liked best and decided it wasn't worth spending the extra money. I think you're better off convincing them to create a MU uniform from a later series and putting that in the shop.

Again, "limited time" and "exclusive" mean just that. If Cryptic goes back and makes everything available at a price, they lose credibility. They're already working on a new MMO, and if they decide to use the same types of promotions, no one will go for them because they'll remember to complain a lot and just buy it as a separate item on the C-store.
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