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# 11
05-13-2010, 11:13 AM
Still sounds to me like there's a misunderstanding, or a very inaccurate patch note.

Does Miracle Worker now cause systems with 0 power to come online?
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# 12
05-13-2010, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Edgecase View Post
Still sounds to me like there's a misunderstanding, or a very inaccurate patch note.

Does Miracle Worker now cause systems with 0 power to come online?
no, it will repair a damaged subsystem, not a drained one
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# 13
05-13-2010, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by faithborn
no, it will repair a damaged subsystem, not a drained one
So, the patch note is right and this thread is completely wrong.
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# 14
05-13-2010, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Edgecase View Post
So, the patch note is right and this thread is completely wrong.
Correct.

This reminds me of the other thread I read a few days ago about a fellow claiming EPtS removes the TSS drain debuff, and boy was he adamant that he was right. Such profound misunderstanding of game mechanics. -_-
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# 15
05-13-2010, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Edgecase View Post
So, the patch note is right and this thread is completely wrong.
What i ment in the post is TSS has a chance to disable the whole system. MW will fix that, but you are correct in the drain part. I just misworded what i was saying in the post.
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# 16
05-13-2010, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Badlander View Post
What i ment in the post is TSS has a chance to disable the whole system. MW will fix that, but you are correct in the drain part. I just misworded what i was saying in the post.
That's not true either. Beam Target Subsystem: Shield never had a chance to disable the entire shield system.

It can drain power to disable all facings.
It can proc a SINGLE FACING shield offline.

Are you saying MW now restores the downed single shield facing immediately?
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# 17
05-13-2010, 01:51 PM
There are other ways to handle the drain.

1. Emergency power to Shields
2. Shield Battery
3. EPS
4. Change your shield power settings, increasing the energy to the shields.
5. I think Transfer shield power will work from a friend
6. I believe extend shields also helps

There might even be more but I'm drawing a blank.

P.S. Yes engineering team and miracle worker will both fix the single side shield drop proc of TSS.
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# 18
05-13-2010, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Andor View Post
There are other ways to handle the drain.

1. Emergency power to Shields
2. Shield Battery
3. EPS
4. Change your shield power settings, increasing the energy to the shields.
5. I think Transfer shield power will work from a friend
6. I believe extend shields also helps

There might even be more but I'm drawing a blank.

P.S. Yes engineering team and miracle worker will both fix the single side shield drop proc of TSS.
Thank you
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# 19
05-13-2010, 04:13 PM
Emergency Power to Shields is pretty basic...
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# 20
05-13-2010, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Andor View Post
Engineer team fixes the downed subsystem it does not remove drain.
All you can do about the drain is set your shield power to high and hit emergency power to shields.
Thanks Andor, I feel like a noob now, lol. I read in the list of counters that EPtS and ET were hard counters to TSS, I assumed it removed one of the shield drain debuffs, boy was I wrong.

Wow, that makes TSS deadlier than I thought. Even if you manage to keep your shields up with the soft counters, your DPS is going to plummet, not to mention the fact that Extend Shields would be severely diminished in effectiveness.

Perhaps we could talk Faithborn into adding to his counters list that it doesn't affect shield drain.
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