Lt. Commander
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# 1 Too little too late
05-20-2010, 07:21 AM
My friends and I have hung with STO since beta. We had high hopes that STO would help us play out our Star Trek fantasies for years to come. But we have come to the resolution that this game is dying and desevedly so. The game was released no where close to finished, has a terrible business model, and it seems Cryptic just wants to nickle an dime us to death. My friends and i each spent quit a bit of money to purchase the game and pay the monthly fee. We feel somewhat ripped off. Although we had some fun with the game since launch we don't feel we got any value fun vs price. My friends and i have canceled our accounts and are done. Most of us are RA5 and are bored to death. No endgame was a killer. This is another game that could have been successful since there isn't much competition for space MMO's but is a potential fatality of corporate greed. We feel sorry for the developers because their hard work and art is subject to the higher ups and the almighty $. The higher ups like most businesses are only interested in the short term and fail long term.

Below is a blog not written by us but tells the story of why STO may be in ICU. I really hope Cryptic cleans up this game and if still around in a year or 2 we will check back. We just can't support this game anymore.


1. Cryptic failed to finish the game.
You only get one chance to make a first impression. Maybe no one at Cryptic has ever heard that old adage; if they had they might not have delivered a half-finished game.

Star Trek Online is unfinished. It was unfinished at release and it's still unfinished, today. And not in just a small way, either, like things need to be polished up or there needs to be a little more content. No, STO is unfinished on an intergalactic scale.

There were suppose to be two playable factions – the Federation and the Klingons. The Federation side is well flushed out with a good variety of things to do; the Klingon side has nothing to do but PvP. Except for a few grind quests, there's zero PvE on the Klingon side.

In any MMO, at least half the players want to play the bad guys – also known as the Klingons in Star Trek lore – but Cryptic didn't give those players the opportunity. If you wanted to play Klingons, but weren't that keen on PvP, chances are good you left the game and chances are good you left as soon as your first month's subscription expired.

2. Atari and Cryptic failed to keep their greed in check.
From the very beginning, Atari and Cryptic Studios have been too greedy. They went with the too-popular, $14.99-a-month model and made players pony up some extra cash for the collector's edition of the game. That's fine. Gamers are reluctantly getting used to this formula.

But STO has gone a little too far. Right out of the gate, they've behaved like they're successful and have a solid player-base they can rely on to buy their stuff: There's so much desirable stuff in the STO cash store, you'd think it was a free-to-play game.

If you want to play a Federation Klingon like Worf it will cost you money. So will playing a Ferengi. Do you want to respec? More money. Rename? More mullah. Special ships, emotes and bridge designs are all being touted in the cash store, and you can't get them in the game.

More character slots? STO only allows three. That's right. Only 3! Is there another pay-to-play MMO that only allows three character slots? If you want more, you have to buy them from the cash store.

All this nickel-and-diming of the player-base only helps to drive people from the game.

3. STO fails as an MMO.
Cryptic failed to provide some basic tools that enhance the social aspects of STO. For instance, simply communicating with other players, a single click or keystroke in other MMOs, tends to require two or three clicks in STO.

Guilds are important to the player community of any MMO, because they serve as centers of camaraderie and provide a ready source for partying up and doing quests; but Cryptic has paid little attention to fleets in STO, providing players with almost a bare minimum of fleet tools.

There are no alerts for when people in your fleet come online. You can't tell which fleet people belong to, because the fleet isn't displayed with the character name. There's no competition between fleets, because there's no fleet ranking system. If you want to join a fleet, there isn't even a way to search for them.

By ignoring some simple social tools, Cryptic has made it harder for a STO player community to develop. If an MMO community is slow to develop, player are likely to leave a game like STO faster than they normally would.

4. Non-PvE activities fail.
STO has minimal crafting – it's really just a store where you exchange your materials for gear – and the quest rewards are so much better than anything you can get from crafting there's little reason or motivation to spend your time crafting.

PvP is imbalanced. It should favor the Federation, because the Feds have all the PvE quests and get all the great world drops, but the ironic thing is the Klingons tend to dominate. They dominate, because all they have to do is PvP. The same group of Klingons will end up playing together all night long and often, because they play together so much, they'll end up dominating the Feds. The unfortunate result is many Feds quit or just totally avoid PvP.

With no real crafting and PvP being imbalanced and frustrating for many players, there aren't any alternative activities in STO. If players don't want to PvE, they just don't log in.

5. The endgame fails.
There's very little to do once you hit the level cap in STO. You get a daily explore mission and a daily PvP mission (See item 4.) and a couple of Special Task Force missions, essentially PvE dungeons, you can run. That's it.

This lack of endgame content might not be so bad if players didn't hit the level cap so fast. Even an fairly casual player can max out in about a month and there are stories of more hardcore players doing it in a week. That short leveling curve means lots of people are getting to the endgame and they're getting there fast. And once they get there, they're finding there's not much to do, so they leave.

At this point, it would be pithy to say, “STO fails.” and end this article at that. But STO doesn't fail, not completely. It's a game with a lot of potential. The space combat and ground combat works. The Federation side has some good content and the little bit of endgame content that is there is pretty good. In fact, if Cryptic added some more endgame content and finished the Klingon faction, STO could be a supersweet MMO.

Cryptic seems to be scrambling to fix the game and flush out its content. But will it be enough? Have they already dug themselves too deep a hole by releasing STO too early? At this point, the hole seems awfully deep, probably too deep. If it is, STO will quickly devolve to maintenance mode and join a growing list of MMO failures.

(The author has played STO since beta. He has a maxed-out rear admiral with the Federation and a captain with the Klingons. He actually enjoys STO.)
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# 2
05-20-2010, 07:27 AM
I didn't read it but since ths is an "I Quit" thread I really didn't need to. Good luck with whatever future games you find enjoyable!
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# 3
05-20-2010, 07:35 AM
I can already tell you someone without reading comprehension skills is going to make a reply in response to your #1 point and say "an MMO is never finished". Of course, people who HAVE reading comprehension skills understand that by "unfinished", the person who wrote that blog actually means "not ready for launch", even if they dont actually agree with that point.
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# 4
05-20-2010, 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The.Grand.Nagus View Post
I can already tell you someone without reading comprehension skills is going to make a reply in response to your #1 point and say "an MMO is never finished". Of course, people who HAVE reading comprehension skills understand that by "unfinished", the person who wrote that blog actually means "not ready for launch", even if they dont actually agree with that point.
STO is unfinished, regardless of people definition of finished and launch finished (someone once used the term 100% finished, which opens up another can or worms) but all that aside there are not many that would say STO is launch ready, depending on season 2 we might almost have a product that is launch ready although thats probably hoping for too much.
Ironically if they have never put the klingons in it would actually look more finished than it is now, as if something was never there in the first place you cant miss it or say its not completed, but they did put the klingons in. they did under cook them and now they have to try to bring them up to launch status.

the only thing i would say is that its been covered to death. too many posts are constantly covering the past. there is not much we can do about whats done. the only thing we can do is look forward and hope things go the way we want them.
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# 5
05-20-2010, 08:05 AM
I agree with everything said. I too have given up on this game for now. I hope they can get things turned around, because this game does have a ton of potential.
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# 6
05-20-2010, 08:09 AM
Sorry, you are leaving the game that it didn't have enough to keep you here. Come back and check STO out again when your ready. All your points were covered two months ago. So I will just say goodbye and good luck.
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# 7
05-20-2010, 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Revo
the only thing we can do is look forward and hope things go the way we want them.
Which is one way that releasing an unfinished game can work to their advantage. They certainly do know what the "problem areas" are and do have a full plate of things in the works. I just hope they can deliver on them.

To the OP: Sorry to see you go and may you find something fun wherever you wind up. I agree with everything you've said and thank you for providing your comments in a constructive manner.
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# 8
05-20-2010, 08:39 AM
I will give them 3 more months of my time and wait it out. I like the game and if they repair one third of the defects people will stay on longer. The Hard Core will give it more time since we did invest the time in playing. If Cryptic just focuses on fixing a few of the major flaws subs will start to go up. I have "sent a friend" and am waiting for his opinion.
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# 9
05-20-2010, 08:39 AM
tl;dr

hey, email me your stuff before you go
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# 10
05-20-2010, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Shard-Warrior View Post
Which is one way that releasing an unfinished game can work to their advantage. They certainly do know what the "problem areas" are and do have a full plate of things in the works. I just hope they can deliver on them.
Season 2! Season 2 is going to save us all! Season 2 has everything this guy asked for...and MORE! MUCH MUCH MORE!
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